[HPforGrownups] Re: Pippin, you've done it again! (Was -who will betray the Order?)

[Iggy McSnurd]

No: HPFGUIDX 82820


> Tanya
>
> I truly wish I could prove you wrong.  But while feeling rather ill also.
> Another scene came to mind.  Remember after Harry is thrown out
> of Snapes office after the pensive (sp) issue.
>
> He then goes to talk to Lupin and Sirus.  The gist of it is that Sirus
> really wants to run and have words to Snape, but Lupin strongly insists
> he is the one to do it, then we have no canon saying he actually did.
>


Ok... I had a little fun playing the Devil's Advocate... so to speak.  I'd
like to point out something, however.

(I have just finished reading this scene... as I am currently re-reading
OotP for the heck of it...)

When Harry is talking to Sirius and Lupin, he tells them that Snape has
discontinued their Occlumency lessons.  Sirius wanted to confront Snape
about it and Lupin stops him, telling Sirius that he had better do it
instead.

Remus then turns to Harry and tells him that he must do everything he can to
get Snapes to resume their lessons.  According to Lupin, Harry learning
Occlumency is the most important thing in the world for him to do now, bar
none.

Had he been truly interested in allowing Voldemort access to Harry's mind,
he wouldn't have been so insistent that Harry keep up learning how to block
Voldemort out.


Going in another direction, let's look at Dumbledore.  He had that look of
triumph and all at the end of GoF.  One of the wizards running one of
Harry's OWLs tests commented that Dumbledore did things with a wand that
he'd never seen before.  Who's to say that Dumbledore didn't "trick shoot"
Sirius from under his arm while looking out of the corner of his eye before
turning towards the dais?


Then there's Ron, as mentioned before.  He has been well established that,
while he is Harry's best friend, he's still envious of Harry's money and
skill at Quidditch.  A lot of groundwork has been lain for his possible
betrayal of Harry... Especially if he has feelings for Hermione later and
she seems to have an interest in Harry... imagined or real.


Lessee...  Snape was a former Death Eater, but he could just as easily still
work for Voldemort.  He can relay false information to Dumbledore and the
Order after having given them a lot of accurate information to lead them in
to a plan by Voldemort.  His Occlumency lessons with Harry only really
seemed to have served to open up the doors to Harry's mind even wider.
Also, keep in mind that he's a master at Occlumency, so even if Dumbledore
used Legimacy (sp?) on him, he'd still be able to hide his true feelings and
motives.  Being a master at Potions as well, he'd probably know of something
to take that would prevent Veritaserum from working on him.



Last, but not least... (and as someone else brought up...)  Where did we get
the idea of a traitor in the Order?


Just my herd of centaurs worth.

Iggy McSnurd
the Prankster