Harry's Visions

[slgazit]

No: HPFGUIDX 82884

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "bohcoo" <sydenmill at m...> wrote:
> OOP, ch. 6, page 118, American Edition:
> "Despite the fact that he was still sleeping badly, still having 
> dreams about corridors and locked doors that made his scar 
prickle..."
> 
> 
> (Of course, I have a problem with the description of him STILL 
having 
> those dreams as this was the very first mention of him dreaming 
about 
> long corridors and locked doors. Prior to this mention, the only 
> references to his dreams were about the graveyard and Cedric and 
one 
> mention about Hagrid teaching them about weapons that were 
creatures 
> with cannons for heads. No mention of corridors.

I don't have the book handy but I clearly remember a passage from the 
first chapter of OoP that went something like this (paraphrased) [he 
was sleeping badly because] "even when he was not dreaming about 
Cedric or the graveyard, he was dreaming about long corridors and 
locked doors" and then the text goes on to say that Harry assumed it 
was a mark of his feeling trapped and uninformed.

So the use of the word STILL in chapter 6 is perfectly valid.

> Then, page by page, chapter by chapter, Harry has visions of 
getting 
> further and further along -- he sees a door open. . . next vision 
he 
> gets a little further still and goes through a room with mechanical 
> clicking sounds. . . next he enters the Prophecy Room and so on, 
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> But, Voldemort wasn't actually physically doing those things, as he 
> had been with the snake attack. How was Voldemort seeing those 
things 
> in the Department of Mysteries so accurately, then?

After the snake attack on Mr. Weasley, Voldemort became aware of 
Harry sharing his thoughts. He also deduces that he can induce 
visions inside Harry's mind. After his talk with Rookwood he learned 
that the only people who can remove the prophecy from the shelf are 
Harry and himself.

So from then on, Voldemort simply induces the visions into Harry's 
mind to tempt him to go there and get the prophecy for him. Remember 
that Voldemort thinks that Harry knows that a prophecy exists (based 
on what the DE's said during the fight in the DoM) and believes that 
by showing Harry how to get it, he could rely on his natural 
curiosity to go and get it. When that does not work, he finally 
produces the image of Sirius being tortured there to get Harry to the 
DoM.

As for how he knows what is in there - he is a legilimens, so he can 
use Rookwood's memories from his time there to learn exactly what it 
looks like in there, and then transfer these visions into Harry's 
dreams. The occlumency lessons were started to prevent that.

> When Harry wakes up, Voldemort is ripped away from his fantasy 
> thoughts.  Huh? Harry, in essence has CONTROL over Voldemort's mind?

Nope. If he is sharing Voldemort's dreams, he (Harry) is ripped out 
of the dream. If these are Voldemort's induced dreams, he simply 
wakes up.

Salit