Debt - Problem

[Fred Waldrop]

No: HPFGUIDX 82929

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sachmet96" <sachmet96 at y...> 
wrote:
> Arya wrote: 
By my count, that leaves Harry with two definate life debts and more 
than likely four:
1.  Ginny
2.  Wormtail
3.  Snape (loss of James's life)
4.  Snape (loss of Lily's life)
 
sachmet96:

Arthur owes Harry a life debt.
 
I don't think Snape owes Harry a life debt, the debt was to his 
father. In fact Snape saved Harry's life so Harry owes a life debt to 
him imo. Even if he owes Harry 2 debts he is more than even, he saved 
him in PS during Quidditch,

Hello all, Fred Waldrop Here:
Actually he *tried* to save Harry's lie in PS/SS, it was Hermione who 
saved Harry by knocking Quirrel over getting to Snape. Snape did 
help "protect" Harry at the quidditch match, but he did not save him.
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sachmet96:
in book 5 when he informed everyone that Harry gone, then when he 
went looking for him in the Forbidden Forest, 

Fred again:
There is no canon to support that Snape went into the forest at all. 
All it says in the book is he *intended* to go look in the forest.
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sachmet96:
he also tried to save him in book 3 (he didn't know that Remus, 
Sirius (murderer)) weren't trying to kill Harry, ...

Fred again:
Once more, I disagree. When Snape went into Lupins office he saw the 
Maurders map and seen Sirius, HRH & Lupin going to the Shericking 
Shack. All Snape wanted to do was kill Sirius, not save anyone. (and 
for his bonus, he was going to let the dementors give Lupin a little 
kiss too, just for old time sake.
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sachmet96:
Harry also owes a debt to Dubledore (if he sent Fawkes in CoS),

Fred:
Fawkes came to Harry because he was showing loyality toward 
Dumbledore.
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sachmet96:
all the people who were at the Ministry in book 5 to save him from 
Voldemort and I am sure some others.

Fred:
They all *volunteered* to go, they did not save Harry's life. 
Plus, there is one two more, Hermione in PoA when the dementors went 
for Harry, Hermione & Sirius. And also Fleur Delacour's little 
sister, Gabrielle in GoF, the second task. (although the saving of 
Gabrielle is questionable, Fleur sure thought it to be so).
 
Fred Waldrop