Chapter Discussions: Chapter 3, the Advance Guard
Ali
Ali at zymurgy.org
Tue Oct 21 12:58:39 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 83244
I, Ali wrote:-
Since writing, Stephen Fry has released his audio version in which
Tonks has a Lancastrian accent despite saying "Wotcher" - the use
of wotcher is still unknown to the author outside of London].
June replied:-
>>> Picky Brit comment: It's a LANCASHIRE accent meaning coming
from the now non-existent county of Lancashire in north west England
(it housed Manchester and cites like that). Lancastrian either
pertains to the extinct royal dynasty that fought in the Wars of
the Roses (1455-1485) or to the small town of Lancaster in the south
of the English Lake District. I therefore say Lancashire because
that accent is distinctive.>>>
To quote Stephen Fry:-
"Jo Rowling said I'd done the voices as she imagined them. She
doesn't say what accents they have, but you get a sense of it from
the rhythm and word order of their speech. In Phoenix, I instantly
thought Tonks should sound as if she came from Blackburn or Rochdale
in Lancashire, slightly Jane Horrocks". See Leaky Cauldron link:-
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/MTarchives/week_2003_09_28.html
Thus, I agree that Stephen Fry at least believes Tonks comes from
Lancashire. In terms of the Lancastrian definition, I've gone by the
Concise Oxford Dictionary definition which gives one definition of
Lancastrian as:-
"Inhabitant or native of Lancashire or Lancaster".
I still maintain that either JKR or Stephen Fry has made a mistake -
Tonks shouldn't be saying "Wotcher" *Unless* it is an affectation
that she has adopted. However, I do not believe I was wrong to call
Fry's accent Lancastrian - unless my dictionary is also wrong.
Ali, an equally picky Brit and LOON.
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