No Sex, Please, We're British (was ethics in the WW )

o_caipora o_caipora at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 21 21:00:49 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 83282

I'm fairly sure one of Rowling's sources is Kipling's "Stalky & Co". 
Set in a boarding school, has a Trio, etc.

Out of copyright, it's available online. The chapter most on-topic to 
this discussion is available here:
http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/prose
/DebtsandCredits/unitedidolaters.html

Kipling was of course Victorian. Even so, his meaning is clear. 
Here's a dialog between the Head and the Chaplain:
---
`And he doesn't approve of Our institutions? You say he is On the 
Track—eh? He suspects the worst? ` 

The School Chaplain nodded. 

`We-ell. I should say that that was the one tendency we had not 
developed. Setting aside we haven't even a curtain in a dormitory, 
let alone a lock to any form-room door—there has to be tradition in 
these things.' 

`So I believe. So, indeed, one knows. And—'tisn't as if I ever 
preached on personal purity either.' 
---

Hogwarts of course has curtains even on beds, and students never seem 
to have any trouble getting together out of sight of teachers.

I wouldn't call Rowling entirely reticent. When Harry is in the 
Prefect's Bath, Millicent peeks at him.  St. Augustine tells us 
that "the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." If even a spirit 
cannot withstand a bit of sexual curiosity, what can we assume of 
flesh in the grip of adolescent hormones?

Recall too the mandrakes, and their marks of maturation: acne, wild 
parties, and finally moving into each other's pots. Surely there 
aren't two ways for an adult to read that - though readers too young 
to understand will miss the meaning.

The author of the original Hardy Boys books, Leslie McFarlane, says 
in his autobiography ("Ghost of the Hardy Boys" - read it if you can 
find it) that the lack of sex was stifling. He says he always wanted 
to send the Dana sisters (girl detectives) and the Hardy boys 
together into one of the many abandoned houses abounding in Bayport, 
as "It might have done the four of them no end of good." 

Lastly, I recently read somewhere that at Eton, a boy who is caught 
in bed with a girl is expelled. If he's caught in bed with a boy, 
he's suspended.

Can any British readers shed some light on this?

 - Caipora





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