Last names vs First. (was: James/MWPP in Slytherin)
ghinghapuss
rredordead at aol.com
Fri Oct 24 18:06:26 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 83495
>Del Said:
>Imagine that Harry and Hermione (or Lavender or Parvati) started
>getting romantically interested in each other : would they suddenly
>revert from calling each other by their first names to start using
>their last names ?? No way.Moreover, we do know of someone who's
>calling Hermione by her last name... Draco Malfoy. Should we then
>assume that he's secretly in love with her ?
>Taryn Said:
>It wasn't said that EVERYONE in love would do that. But it certainly
>occurs as a form of flirting.
>Snip I just don't get it.
Now me:
The use of last names vs. first names in British Public (Americans
read Private) schools is an interesting one. And because, along with
almost all life in Britain, it deals with status and class it is
somewhat complicated. One of those things you need to have grown up
with to truly understand ;-) but here goes:
Teachers will call a student by their last name as a measure of the
childs lower status. First names indicate familiarity. Just as
students will call a teacher Miss or Sir or Professor to show the
teachers higher status.
Boys are called by their last name only. Eg Potter and Weasley.
Girls by Miss and then last name. Eg Miss Granger. (Unless the girl
is in serious trouble then a teacher may use just their last name but
in those circumstances it must be read as very derogatory and the
teacher is very angry. When it happened to me I knew I was in BIG
trouble.)
Between students it is really the same idea. One student will use
the last name of another to establish a higher status or in an
attempt to put-down or psyche out the other student.
The OotP Pensive scene is really a good example of this behavior and
tells us a lot about James Potter and his state of mind at the time
and the status of all players involved in this scene. James calls
Lily 'Evans' which is at once an insult, by not showing her proper
respect and a way to get immediate attention. No one can avoid being
publicly called out in such a way. Of course we know James is
crushing on Lily, but he wouldn't want her, or those around to know
that and give her the advantage. James clearly wants every one to
know where he is standing in relation to everyone around him. He
thinks very highly of himself at this time and considers everyone
else around him (other then his close friends) below him, even Lily.
Possibly because she is muggle born or because she is a girl, what
ever the reason he clearly thinks he is better than her to the extent
that he truly believes he can black mail her in to going out with him
and by the extent of his rage at her public refusal of him. I love
that scene; it is very well constructed and tells us so much and so
little at the same time.
It's the same with Malfoy and Harry, Ron and Hermione. Malfoy, who
thinks he is better than everyone, uses last names all the time. To
use first names is just too familiar and friendly.
Another good example is Professor Snape calling Professor
Lupin 'Lupin' through out PoA showing he thinks very little of
Remus.
Interestingly almost everyone calls Lupin 'Lupin' perhaps because of
his part animal nature puts him below the full humans.
Hope I haven't put you all to sleep.
Mandy
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