James/MWPP in Slytherin (was MWPP in all 4 Houses)

[evil_sushi2003]

No: HPFGUIDX 83679

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "darryl_oneill" 
<darryl_oneill at y...> wrote:

> In the Sch 2 interview there are two questions that are important.
> 1)
> Q.Which house was Lily Potter in, and what is her maiden name? 
> A.Her maiden name was Evans, and she was in Gryffindor 
(naturally). 
> 
> 2)
> Q. What position did James play on the Gryffindor Quidditch 
team?   
>    Was it seeker like Harry, or something different? 
> A.) James was Chaser. 
> 
> Note that J.K. puts Lily in Gryffindor but she does not confirm nor
> deny that James was in Gryffindor.  The person asking the question 
> says that James is in Gryffindor.  J.K. only answers that he was a 
> Chaser.  If James is in Gryffindor, J.K. would not comment.  But 
if 
> James is not in Gryffindor, J.K. may not comment if this is 
> important to a future book.

I know that JK says that James is chaser, but I definately stand 
strong with my beliefs that he is seeker... if she writes that he is 
in one of the books, I'll probably either take it with a pinch of 
salt if it is valuable to the plot... or ignore it altogether... but 
that's just my ignorance. 
  
> 1) It does not make sense that most of the major players all seem 
to 
> come from Gryffindor.

HP is also a childrens book, and I think that JK needed to establish 
a sense of good/bad. In book 5, she has introduced greyer shades, 
but the sense of slytherin= MOSTLY bad is still present. 

Also, Harry is a Gryf, and we see events from his point of view, 
then the most influencial persons to him will be those who he 
interacts with the most- gryffindors. Therefore I see no reasons as 
to why most of the main 'good guys' couldn't belong to gryffindor. 
 
Dont forget that Snape is quite a main character, and a slytherin, 
and Luna will probably become quite influencial, and isa ravenclaw, 
not to mention Cedric, Cho, Susan Bones??, Ernie McMillan?? who 
might play larger roles in the books to come.

> 2) The behavior of MWPP especially in book 5 seems much more like 
> Draco than anyone in Gryffindor.

In Snape's worst memory, I think JK is showing that all people have 
their defects. Also, as Snape is a slyth, if a MWPP was in slyth, 
then wouldn't they be less hostile to him?

F/G behaviour shows that pulling pranks can be good humour, and IMO 
MWPP are pranksters (I solemnly swear I am up to no good). I see 
Draco as more of the selfish type, rather than doing something for 
the humour of others, and I suppose that he would only be humourous 
to suit his own ends... but then I can't argue that MWPP DON'T do it 
for themselves... hmmm 
 
> 3) Hagrid said that every bad wizard was from Slytherin at a time 
> when he thought that Sirius was an evil wizard coupled with 
>comments 
>in the Lexicon on why James, Sirius, Lupin were in the same house.  
>Sirius would be a likely candidate for Slytherin given the existing 
> family trends to be in the same house.  Black was willing to send 
> Snape to be bitten by Lupin as a teenager.  This does not seem 
>like 
>a Gryffindor trait.

I would have thought that Hagrid meant every MAJOR bad wizard, eg, 
Voldy, and the presumably countless others who have played menace to 
the WW. Plus there is bound to be at least ONE exception to this. 
And, if James was in Slyth, then why would Hagrid, who appears to 
think nothing but highly of James, warn Harry against Slytherin.

As Sirius himself states, Snape was an exception, and we've still to 
learn the source of MWPP's hatred of him.

Also, as someone (Ahr I think) has said, the Patil sisters show that 
family trends aren't neccessarily anything to go by. Also, we know 
that Sirius hated his family, so wouldn't he go AGAINST his family 
trends?
 
> 4) Harry might have been sorted into Gryffindor or Slytherin.  
This 
> makes more sense with one parent in each.

As I've already said, family doesn't seem t be influencial on house, 
except in Malfoys case, where he feels it is his only choice (duty, 
pride, traits, beleifs and prejudices which we believe he shares 
with his father????) and oppositely in Sirius's case, where he would 
presumabley feel it was not right to be in the same house as his 
family who he despised.

> 5) There have been 5 books and J.K. has been very silent about 
what 
> houses they were in.

...hmmmm, maybe we are just over analysing this... Lupin's toasting 
to Gryffindor suggests he was also a gryf.

> 6) James seems to be from a rich pureblood family.

Same applies to Sirius. But James has no problem with Lily being 
muggle-born, or Lupin being half cast. Plus he sided against Voldy, 
and as his family have apparently been anihalated, then they most 
probably opposed him also.

> 7) Lily and James refer to each other by their last names.  If 
they 
> were both in Gryffindor together for 5 years then why so distant.  
> Everyone in Gryffindor always call each other by their first names.

Hmmm.... interesting point... but then MWPP are not distant, and 
call each other nicknames- more intimate than first name's, so we 
would assume they were in the same house, plus the fact that they 
had such a close bond in school, and were good friends (undenialbly 
Wormtail was not the best friend) They kept the unregistered 
animagus and Moony's ailment secret. As I can see no reasons for any 
of MWPP (save W) not being in Gryff- and if W wasn't in gryff then 
why would the others ahng around with him?- IMO they had to include 
him as they were probably the only gryff boys in their yr, (in 
Harry's yr there are only 5). We are shown that there were plenty of 
people who admired MPP, W probably had nothing more to offer as 
friendship save that they would be around him a lot more if he was 
in the same house, therefore causing the friendship. Also, at this 
point, W may not have even had thought about the darkside.

 Maybe James calls Lily by her last name because she thinks so 
little of him during the 5th yr that she doesn't want to be on first 
name terms with him. Or that James wants to cause Lily to feel 
inferior to him, so that she would think that she was lucky to have 
his attachment to her, when he could have a whole lot of other girls.


... i never thought I would write such a long post... and as a 
consequence am thoroughly exhausted.

evil_sushi