tTuchy-Feely Armchair Psychologist (was: No Sex...We're British)
jwcpgh
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Tue Oct 28 13:14:48 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 83708
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:
> > Caipora
> > > One of the most puzzling aspects of romance if not sex in
Rowling is Hermione's cool explanations of how girls behave in OotP.
How does she know so well how other girls behave? <snip>
>
> bboy_mn:
>
> This particular insightful aspect of Hermione seems to irritate a
few people, although I don't understand why.
>
> Isn't what Hermione said about Harry's date with Cho pretty much
what you were thinking when you read it?
>
> Wasn't it obvious that Harry was clueless, and wasn't it obvious
what Cho's motivations and feelings were?
>
> I'm a guy and even I could tell what was going on, so when Hermione
> was explaining it to Harry and Ron, I was right there with her
saying 'too right you are', and laughing at how oblivious boys are.
<snip>
Laura:
I wonder if part of the problem with Harry and Ron is that they
haven't been brought up with girls. Ron has a younger sister, but
he'd be much more heavily influenced by his 5 older brothers. Ginny
is just starting to come into her own in OoP. And of course Harry
didn't grow up with a sister at all. Molly and Petunia would fall
into the category of "grownup" rather than "girl", so observing them
wouldn't be much help in understanding boy/girl relations. At
Hogwarts it looks like the boys and girls don't socialize much in
their early years, so just the proximity of girls the same age as
they are doesn't help. It's a learning process, and a painful one
(although it does have its funny aspects) at that.
I thought Hermione's analysis was right on. I've been observing the
development of cross-gender relationships for a while now, as our
kids are progressing through their teens, and the whole situation in
GoF with the Yule Ball and OoP with Cho and Harry seemed absolutely
realistic to me. Boys and girls in their mid-teens are beginning to
discover that there is a yawning chasm between them in terms of how
they see and understand the world. And it's very puzzling to them-
they truly can't grasp what's going on in the other gender's mind.
(I think girls figure it out earlier, or at least figure out how to
deal with it.) Let's face it, if you don't understand the premises,
you're not going to understand the results. Ron and Harry are lucky
to have a patient and articulate guide to help them as they venture
into the unknown world of relationships.
Laura, who hopes she's gotten the attributions right in this post
and apologizes in advance if she screwed up
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