Things that will come into play later.
Geoff Bannister
gbannister10 at aol.com
Mon Sep 1 10:24:24 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 79417
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Fred Uloth <prof_uloth at h...>
wrote:
> Hmm...I'm led to believe a woman wrote this post. I think JKR
nailed male
> relationships very well with this one. For women, a good friend is
someone
> with whom they can cry, share emotions, discuss whatever. To a man
(at
> least in Teens and Tweens) a good friend is someone who is there,
shows
> loyalty and doesn't pry into emotional issues. The girls (Hermy,
Cho,
> Jenny) are the one that keeps bringing up the topics Harry wants to
avoid
> (death, dreams, etc). Nevilles comment after Sirius dies is as
intimate a
> question as any guy would get with another guy. If Ron were asking
the
> questions that Hermione asks and Harry didn't blow his top, then
I'd say
> the people who think Harry is light in the loafers may have a leg
to stand
> on. JKR has a VERY good handle on relationship dynamics of teenage
boys.
> Guys don't want to talk about it...not when the wounds are still
fresh
> anyway...if they do, it will only be with a female that they really
trust.
> I don't think we should be slighting Ron for being a typical
teenage
> boy...when push comes to shove, Ron is always on Harry's side.
She has indeed handled male relations well. I feel that I relate to
HP because I can see myself at that age. I was considered something
of a "boffin" (probably a geek in modern speech!, something like
Hermione even in having my nose in books and more interested in
intellectual things. Being at an all-male school (the UK norm at that
time) didn't help my contact with girls and, like HP, I had a number
of disasters a la Cho Chang.
One of the things which I always dislike is the "big boys don't cry"
attitude often drummed into our heads. Looking at Harry's responses
to some of the deep emotional moments, I can recall when my eldest
son was born and there was a medical crisis which threatened both
mother and baby. I was left out on a limb feeling absolutely
devastated waiting for news and wishing that I could go and have a
good bawl on someone's shoulder - and I couldn't. There wasn't a
shoulder handy and I couldn't break through the conditioning.
There is also the male bonding which I recently mentioned in
connection wih CS Lewis' "Four Loves" - friends together just to
enjoy each other's company. My wife often berates me because in phone
conversations with our two sons, who are still in London, she gets
involved in their "relationship" lives - particularly the younger one
who has had a couple of relationship crash-landings but, when I get
to the phone, we discuss DVDs, politics, computers et al. Fred is
right, that's the way male dynamics often work -and not only teens
and tweens.
Geoff
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