Trelawney picking up the prophecy (was: Re: Dumbledore's integrity)

[princesspeaette]

No: HPFGUIDX 79420

> Kirstini wrote:
> 
>(who, incidentally, would like to point out that Dumbledore 
>keeping Trelawny at Hogwarts after her sacking does not in itself 
>prove that she keeps knowledge of her real prophecies in her 
>subconscious.) Trelawny is one of the other people able to pick the 
>prophecy up from the Dpt of Mysteries.
 
 
~<(Laurasia)>~ :
>Actually, only the people who the prophecies are about can pick 
>them up. There was never any mention that the people who 
>made the prophecies can pick them up. It was either 'The Dark 
>Lord' or 'Harry Potter (?).' 
> 
>I know I'm being picky, but this is a pretty significant point. 
> 
>Another point- Sybill's second prophecy (end of PoA) is therefore 
>acessable only to Voldemort and Wormtail, so they should 
>therefore have no issues retrieving it and having a great sense of 
>confidence instilled inside themselves. (The Dark Lord will rise 
>more terrible than before). Talk about a self-esteem boost! That 
>would make poor little Voldy who has been once again thwarted 
>by that Potter boy feel much happier.
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I don't think Trelawney's second prophecy is accessable to anyone but 
Harry (with help from a Pensieve).  He didn't report the actual 
prophecy word for word to anyone, only an abridged form to 
Dumbledore.  I think they have to be reported to the DoM to be 
catalogued with the others.  And someone here (sorry, can't remember 
who, and Yahoomort is not behaving today) said that they have to be 
interpreted by someone at the DoM to be labeled.  Which brings up an 
interesting idea: If they had never relabeled the prophecy 
with "Harry Potter(?)" could that have been used as a sort of test 
later to see if it was supposed to be Neville or Harry?

And I don't think the phrase "poor little" and "Voldemort" should 
ever be used in the same sentence.  However the confidence thing is 
already in play, I think Voldemort's initial destruction was caused 
by pure and simple overconfidence.  That's when people start making 
mistakes. 

Of course it is too bad for him that he keeps getting thwarted by the 
magical Scooby gang. *weg*


~Margaret