Why Harry Potter "cannot" be set in 1991 (Question)
severusbook4
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Tue Sep 2 21:00:30 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 79559
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "samnanya" <yswahl at s...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, alex fox <trinity61us at y...>
> wrote:
> > Ok, this is a silly thing to ask, but my friend wants to know
just
> exactly how everyone KNOWS that HP started in 1991. I would look
in
> the archives, but i haven't the ability to do that right now, as I
am
> using someone else's computer, and barely getting my mail. Thank
you,
> for understanding. If I could get an answer quickly, it would
avoid a
> fight. I, personally, know that fact.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Alex Fox
> >
>
>
>
> Samnanya replies -
> Here is the clearest argument I can present -
> All references to the us trade paperback editions -
>
> 1. CoS Chapter 8 - Deathday Party for Nearly Headless Nick
> pg 129 "Well this Halloween will be my 500th deathday" said Nearly
> Headles Nick
> pg 133 description on the cake "Sir Nicholas ..... Died 31st
> October, 1492"
>
> from those two clues Harry's second year at Hogwarts is [1492+500]
or
> 1992
> Harry's first year of hogwarts is thus 1991, and the summer of
1991 is
> when Harry meets Hagrid for the first time
>
> 2. SS Chapter 4 - The Keeper of the Keys
> pg 55 Hagrid says about Voldemort "he turned up in your village
where
> you was all living on Halloween ten years ago. You was just a year
> old.
>
> from this we know that Voldemort killed Harry's parents in [1991-
10]
> or 1981 and therefore Harry was born in 1980.
>
> In addition,
>
> 3. PoA Chapter 21 - Hermione's Secret
> pg 392 Dumbledore tells Harry and Hermione that "there is not a
shred
> of proof to support Black's story, except your word, and the word
of
> two thirteen year old wizards will not convince anybody ...."
>
> since PoA was in year 3, and year 3 was 1993 from the above
argument,
> this is further proof that Dumbledore as well says that Harry was
born
> in 1980.
>
> To refute this argument is to say that Dumbledore and Hagrid are
lying
> [or uninformed] and the cake decorator for Nick cleverly put on
the
> wrong date without anybody knowing ......
>
> I think this carries a little more weight in "canon" than a
> playstation ......
> Hope this clears it up for you....
> Sam
Also, the Playstation was introduced in North America in September
1995, so if it was the same for the UK, then JKR's facts still hold
correct. If I remember correctly, Harry was writting to Sirius
about Dudley throwing his PS1 out the window (didn't he just get it
for his B-day?) in OotP. OotP takes place in 1996, so the PS1 had
been for sale for about a year. The other reference about the
computer Harry wanted to play while left at home, was a computer,
not a PS1.
Sevvie
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