Pensieves objectivity AND: Dumbledore's integrity

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No: HPFGUIDX 79609

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Wanda Sherratt" 
<wsherratt3338 at r...> wrote:
 I understand that people who didn't want Sirius to die might think 
> that Dumbledore has the broadest shoulders so he should carry the 
> heaviest blame, but I just don't see it.  "Sadistic" is a pretty 
> extreme word.  Umbridge is sadistic; I don't see how any reasonable 
> person can class Dumbledore with her.  I don't even see exactly why 
> he was being so apologetic at the end of OotP.  I wouldn't have 
> been, especially not to a loud-mouthed, self-righteous brat like 
> Harry.  For every suggestion that Dumbledore should have done this, 
> or should have done that, there is at least a very good objection 
> that such a course of action would have led to disaster.  I don't 
> think he did anything without good reason, and it's strange to hear 
> people dismiss his actions as if the right course was so plain and 
> easy to see, that he must have been stupid or evil to have done 
> anything else.  I think his plan was a perfectly good one, and it's 
> not exactly his fault that Harry and Sirius thought they knew 
better 
> and tried something else.  Their plans didn't work out any better 
> than his, so why is he the only one apologizing at the end?  Maybe 
> because he's the only one with the guts to admit that he isn't 
> always right and always perfect; it would be refreshing to hear 
> something remotely similar coming from Harry for a change.
> 
> Wanda

I was about to send my message  and then I read Laura's post, which I 
think sums it up perfectly.

Yes, I think that Dumbledore should bear a heaviest blame. As Laura 
said, he demonstrated  complete lack of understanding of human 
psychology. I expected better of him. I liked him a lot before OoP. I 
dreaded the thought of his possible death before OoP. Now I think 
that Minerva McGonagall would be a more capable leader.

His plan in regard to Sirius was a perfectly good one? Please allow 
me to disagree VERY strongly. Sirius run away from this place when he 
was a child. I think that in Azkaban he was also hunted by the 
memories of his chidlhood, not only Potters' death. I think it is 
safe to assume that he was trying to forget about this house for a 
long time. Dumbledore made him relive these memories over and over 
again. Add to this Sirius' understandable desire to contribute to the 
fight in a meaningful way and even if I would not use the 
word "sadistic" to describe Dumbledore's treatment of him, the 
words "complete and utter stupidity" come to mind.

I can't completely disregard the possibility of Dumbledore's 
sacrificing Sirius toward "greater something". If so, he is MUCH 
worse than "sadistic".


He had the guts to apologize? Good! Maybe not everything is lost for 
him. Maybe he is not ESE!, just plain stupid as I said before.

Are you seriously suggesting that Harry should apologise to 
Dumbledore? For what? For desperately trying to find the truth, that 
was being kept from him? For suffering after watching death (or 
supposed eath :o))of his godfather?

Please forgive my sarcasm, but yeah, right.

I am sorry, but I am SO VERY disappointed in Dumbledore now.

Alla