[HPforGrownups] Harry Potter is a CHILDREN'S BOOK re: rape sexual preference

Sue Porter sues0101 at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 3 07:25:46 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 79622





>  Fred Uloth said -
>
>Now I'd like to say that *nobody* in the Harry Potter books is gay. Rest
>assured that they are all celibate until we are told otherwise.
>
>Me (K) -
>
>OK now while I agree that 'onscreen' (so to speak) they will all remain
>celibate I hardly think it's realistic to believe that all the characters
>are celibate. I mean Harry and co yes quite probably because they're a
>trifle busy trying to stay alive most of the time but I would bet good 
>money
>that at least some of the kids are experimenting offscreen. And what about
>the adults? *especially* those in relationships, Molly & Arthur, Bill &
>Fleur etc and what if we find out later some of the teachers are married as
>JKR has hinted - are you going to claim that they're celibate too?
>
>And besides that what on earth does someone's level of sexual activity have
>to do with their sexuality? I personally am currently celibate (darn <g>) -
>does that make me any less heterosexual than I was a couple of years ago
>when I was in a serious relationship? No of course it doesn't. I am not
>heterosexual only when I'm actually having sex and someone who is 
>homosexual
>is homosexual all the time even if they never have sex. With the level of
>prejudice in this world towards gay people I can't understand why people
>seem to think that being gay is some kind of choice.
>
>And as for the idea that some people have suggested that putting a gay
>character in the books would somehow be wrong because they're children's
>books, I am always astonished when I come up against this level of 
>prejudice
>and stupidity. No one is suggesting that JKR suddenly write Hasrry Potter -
>the *adult* version with hot Remus/Sirius (or whoever) sex scenes ...
>although there'd certainly be a market for it <weg>. But a gay couple 
>acting
>in the same way we see the het couples acting (the obvious affection 
>between
>Molly and Arthur, the Harry/Cho kiss, the pre-ball angst and the dancing at
>the ball etc) wouldn't in any way make the books less suitable for 
>children.
>I *hate* this idea that gay people are something that should be hidden away
>from children in some way. Love and affection between people are (imo) a
>blessing and should be celebrated whatever form they take.
>
>K

I would like to add my agreement to this post. Why is it that it's ok for JK 
to write about war, death, racism, opression, torture, cuelty etc etc, but 
some people seem to think that it's not ok for her to write about sexuality? 
Why is it not ok to write about something that is good and beautiful? Why 
are we so scared to let kids read about love and sex (and no I'm not talking 
about reading graphic porn here, even I'm not so stupid as to approve of 
that!)?

Before I get shot down by those who disagree and say that JKR is not writing 
a book about teenage love, het or gay or anywhich way, and if its not 
important to the storyline it wont be in the book, let me say this. Harry 
will win the battle against evil somehow. Love is the key here. Love saved 
Harry from LV when he was a baby. Seems to me that an exploration of some 
other forms of love will be something that JK will do in the next two books. 
Exploring love would bring a nice balance to the books after dealing with so 
much evil. Harry has to learn about love somehow if he is going to have the 
ability to defeat LV, and unless there is some exploration and understanding 
by Harry, he won't have the emotional depth to deal with it.

JMHO, but why is writing about something so good, so frowned upon? Are we 
saying that kids are better able to deal with evil, death, torture, murder, 
war and opression than with love?  You can say kids don't need to know about 
sex/love until they are old enough to understand it, BUT why are they old 
enough to understand the evil stuff and not the good stuff? Is it a comment 
upon our society that
we have become immune to how bad evil is, and have lost the ability to teach 
our children how to love?

I probably haven't worded this as well as I might, but I hope you all get 
the point I am trying to make.

Sue

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