[HPforGrownups] Pensieves objectivity AND: Dumbledore's integrity

Fred Uloth prof_uloth at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 5 07:33:09 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 79890

At 12:38 AM 9/4/2003 +0000, jwcpgh wrote:
>But that's like saying that Harry couldn't have learned Patronus from
>Lupin, when he clearly did.  He knew perfectly well that
>the "dementors" weren't real, so by your argument there shouldn't
>have been enough challenge for him to learn the spell.  But he did,
>and very effectively too.

Lupin was an excellent teach for Harry, but Harry practiced on a Boggart 
not Lupin. The dementors weren't real, but the boggart had the same effect 
on Harry as a real dementor. If you go over that part of PoA, you will 
notice that Harry faints/blacks out several times. So in essence he was 
facing a "real" dementor, so what if it changed into a moon when Lupin gets 
in front of it. This was a perfect situation for him to practice as he had 
the a "safe" version of the real thing (i.e. the boggart would never have 
the chance to kiss Harry).

Lupin could probably teach Harry Occumency, but as they have personable 
relationship, the hostility would not be there. Snape on the other hand 
provides the hostile environment needed for Harry to truly master 
Occumency..the enmity is real, but Snape is not trying to take control of 
Harry....thus he is a "safe" version of the real thing. 





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