Snape and Harry WAS Re: Pensieves objectivity AND: Dumbledore's integrity

[susanbones2003]

No: HPFGUIDX 79950

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sienna291973" 
<jujupoet29 at h...> wrote:
> > > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sbursztynski" > 
> Susan:
> > I think Harry's heart is still with him. I think that is why he 
is 
> > so very angry with him now. Sirius and Remus admitted that what 
> > Harry saw was true. It is easier for Harry to be angry at Snape 
> than 
> > his hero father who just fell off his white horse. I hope that 
> Harry 
> > figures out that his anger is misdirected in the future books.
> 
> 
> Then Geoff:
> >Yes, but can you see Harry going to Snape and saying, "Professor, 
I 
> >realise now that my father was awful with you (or something 
> similar!) 
> >and I want to apologise on his behalf."
> 
> >Can you see him after the way Snape has reacted in earlier books? 
> >From the word go, in PS, he set out to humiliate Harry - look at 
the 
> >very first Potions lesson HP ever attended. He has specialised in 
> >making snide comments or comments with a sting in the tail.
> 
> >Would Harry attempt a reconcilation when he is conditioned to 
expect 
> >rebuffs, rudeness and put downs?
> 
> Now me (Sienna):
> I personally have to agree that Snape has made it awfully hard for 
> Harry to truly feel any lasting sympathy for him.  It is testament 
to 
> Harry's good heart that he was able to feel compassion for Snape at 
> any point in time given their history.  And he is still only 15, 
> while Snape, at his mature age, still wears the emotional scars of 
> his childhood and, what's more, takes them out on an innocent boy 
who 
> already has more than enough to deal with in his life. I can't say 
> that I feel an awful lot of sympathy for Snape.  I can certainly 
> empathise with awful childhood experiences (who among us doesn't 
have 
> at least one of those) but to let them rule your behaviour years 
> later is something I find hard to understand.  I would sooner see 
> Snape attempt a reconciliation with Harry (given that he should now 
> at least suspect that Harry is NOT like his father) than expect 
Harry 
> to bury his feelings about all of the rudeness and nastiness Snape 
> has directed at both himself and Sirius.
> 
> Sienna
> Who feels much better now she's vented.

And my two knuts:
I have been thinking about the state of Snape's and 
Harry's "relationship" since I finished OOP for the second time. The 
second time is when I really take in details. I am not reading to 
find out who dies, who gets kissed etc. So I can concentrate. At the 
end of the book, when Snape prevents a confrontation between Harry 
and Draco Malfoy, Harry's parting thought is that he'll never forgive 
Snape, presumably for his role in Sirius'death. That stood out to me. 
I do believe their relationship is going to get worse before it gets 
better. All this talk of them acting civilly to each other is a pipe 
dream as long as Harry is able to rationalize some blame Snape's way. 
That's a typical teenage thing to do, I realize. What ever resolution 
these two have, it may take the entirity of the next two books to 
occur. JKR can move through the details of an upsetting incident very 
quickly when she wants to, but one does not deal with the loss of the 
closest thing to a parent Harry's ever known in a summer holiday with 
despised relatives. On the contrary, I'd be much surprised if Harry 
doesn't spend way too much time dwelling on Sirius'death and unless 
he's extraordinarily mature, (which despite my undying affection for 
him, I can't see that being the case), he's going to want to continue 
to blame someone as convinient as Snape for a while. It isn't going 
to build good feeling between them. I am not seer, but it seems that 
something very unusual is going to have to occur to bring Harry and 
Snape above their irrational feelings for each other. Hope that comes 
sooner rather than later, the dramatic tension can wear thin.
Jennifer