Seamus and the Weasleys (was: Re: SHIP Harry's Sexual preference- Sue)

[jeffl1965]

No: HPFGUIDX 79956

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jeffl1965" <jeffl1965 at h...> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeff:
> > Yeah, I can see Party-Animal!Seamus fairly easily. :) In a way, I 
> > think the way that JRK wrote him, is almost insulting with her having 
> > him wanting to make rum at age 11. To me, that implies that he's 
> > already a drinker, which might be true, but not something that she 
> > should point out early on as part of his make-up.
> > 
> Geoff (a different one just to be confusing!)
> Not necessarily so. There is a side of us which likes to experiment 
> with "grown-up" things when we're younger. I can remember having a 
> pull at a cigarette when I was about 8 and not liking it one bit! I 
> didn't smoke then until I was about 18 and gave it up for good at 21. 
> I think it's the same with drink. Experimenting - and possibly being 
> dared by others.
> 
>
   Jeff:
     Yeah, I can agree with that. I did a bit too. Still don't smoke 
nor do I drink. :) I'm sure Seamus and some of the other's 
test "adult" things while away from the watchful eye of Mum and Dad, 
but I just thought it was odd that she had him doing it so soon, and 
in an open place. IIRC, he tried before and made a weak tea. ;) I'm 
guessing he did that attempt elsewhere, maybe the common room? That 
would be a bit safer, I'd wager. 

> 
> Jeff:
> > The same can be said about how she presents the Weasley family. 
> > They're poor, red-haired, and have a large family. Sounds like a stab 
> > at the Irish to me. Perhaps not totally intentional, but still.
> > 

> Geoff:
> I see the Weasleys as a great family. Dad is conscientious and works 
> hard and also wants to work at something which rewarding to him in 
> other ways; hence he has perhaps a lower paid job. I taught for 32 
> years. I could have gone into other careers when I left school but 
> felt that teaching was a vocation. We were never as poor as the 
> Weasleys but we never had the sort of money to throw around as Lucius 
> in the book. I never regretted it though. And often large families 
> pull together and the siblings are close to each other.


   Jeff:

    That's how I see them. It's just that it's difficult to really 
guess what she really means. She hides clues in the books, and 
sometimes you can tell that she has other hidden meanings as well. As 
I've mentioned before, she tends to make most of the blonds, the 
males mainly, appear to be dolts or right wankers, Dudley, Malfoys, 
Neville, Seamus, et al. Makes one wonder. Was her first husband a 
blond?

    The large families association is true. Both my parents came from 
large, poor families, and their closeness is very obvious. Not all 
large families are that close, especially as adults, from what I've 
seen, but usually while growing up most certainly are.


  Jeff