Inheriting Grim Old Place (was Turncoat Tonks; Aurors; etc.)

[rubyxkelly]

No: HPFGUIDX 80052

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sarcasticmuppet" <sarcasticmuppet at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Carolina <silmariel at t...> wrote:
> > 
> > > --RTJ:
> > << As it stands, Sirius's nearest blood relatives are the Malfoys, 
> > the Tonkses, and Bellatrix Lestrange (ugh!). I think that even if 
> > he doesn't have a will, the house will go to Harry--after all, not> 
> > only is he Sirius's godson and wizard guardian, Harry once saved
> > his life, which indicates a deeper attachment.>>
> > 
> > But deep attachments don't have much to say if there is not a will,
> > why would Harry inherit G.Place if there isn't a last will? When 
> was 
> > Sirius made legal tutor for Harry? Aren't the Durdsleys his tutors?
> > 
> > I'm thinking on the kind of wills from Authors as Austen, Bronte or 
> > Eliot. 
> > 
> > Are we sure Sirius could decide what to do of Grimmauld? The Blacks 
> > could have add a clause stating specifically a condition for 
> > inheritance: that the family properties would remain in the family, 
> > here Bellatrix and Narcissa, or Andromeda if she has not been 
> > specifically excluded, wich I doubt. 
> > 
> > He may have the granted right to use the house as only propietary 
> > while he lived, I know Sirius states the house is his, but I know a 
> > case like this and the user of the house instists the house is his, 
> > and you have to be very close to the family to know it isn't. 
> > 
> > silmariel
> 
> Now me (sarcasticmuppet):
> This occured to me, and I wondered why it had not been explored 
> sooner.  There is NO proof that Sirius is even dead!  He/His body 
> went through the veil, poof, right out of existence.  We have no 
> reason to believe that Dumbledore told Fudge anything about Black, 
> and even if he did, how could he prove it?  So the wizard lawyers or 
> whoever handles the estate have no reason to give Grimmauld Place to 
> anyone, because as far as they know, Sirius is still on the run from 
> the law!

Me: (Kat O'Klzmk/rxk)
Actually, there were plenty of witnesses to Sirius' death, and with the arrested DEs being among them (who'd have no interest in keeping it secret) I see no reason why it wouldn't be legally accepted. Sirius may have made a will when he bcame Harry's godfather, but whether or not he would have left the house (as opposed to any personal items or money) to Harry is another matter. 
I would think it would be more likely for the house itself to go to somone like Lupin or Dumbledore.
However, if the estate (house) is "entailed" it generally goes to the next closest male family member (occasionally female member).
If it's entailed to the male line, I don't know who that would e since his brother is dead, unless Regulus left any "legitimate" male heirs. Otherwise it could e an uncle; cousin; second cousin etc. If it's entailed to the nearest lood relative regardless of gender, it could possibly be whomever was the eldest of the three cousins mentioned, which includes Andromeda (or ONKS Y DEFAULT) or Narcissa (or even Draco, if it's an entailment clause arranged so that the property cn pass through a female relation ut only e inherited by a male). 
The real question is: why on Earth  would anyone want Harry to inherit that awful place? There aren't many associations to Sirius in a practical sense since he got the frick out of there as soon as posible, not to mention it's vile, depressing atmoshpere! Even if the nasty things the house was full of were gone, it stil is tres unappealing as a home. (Who on the list wants to volunteer living with the shrieking harridan in the painting of Mummy dearest?)
Since Harry apears to have been left a comfortale amount which is stashed at Gringot's, I'd hope Harry might inherit money, or personal items, or ust aout anything ut that house. Better to let Dumbledore get it for the Order; or for Lupin who'd then have a place to live.
Frankly, a better (and potentially dangerous) matter to be settled would be: WHO GETS KREACHER?
KAT/rxk