[HPforGrownups] Re: Was Fudge talking about Sirius?

AutumnWhisperer at Aol.com AutumnWhisperer at Aol.com
Sun Sep 7 21:01:37 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 80173


Laurie writes:
> Was Fudge possible forshadowing the return of Sirius? < <

AutumnWhisperer wrote:
> <snip> Time would have to be > reversed in order for a dead 
man to come back to life, you see? <snip> > >

Sandy, aka "msbeadsley":
>> I'm sorry to burst your (Droobles Best Blowing Gum is my 
FAVORITE!) bubble, but...

The reversal of time was in PoA, caused by the Time Turner.  The 
man wasn't dead, he was an Animagus who had not been out of rat form 
in, what, nearly eleven years?  Scabbers was revealed to be Peter 
Pettigrew, alive after all, by Harry and Co. and the events in the 
Shrieking Shack.  I think the "couple of invisible dementors," 
though, must be a reference to the ones in the opening of OoP, rather 
than the ones in PoA, because Fudge acknowledged those (PoA) 
dementors and dismissed them from Hogwarts duty.

And JKR has already said that Sirius really is *dead*; I think she 
means we aren't going to see him again.  Period.  Denial is one stage 
of grief; let's go on to the next one, whatever it is. <<<


Yes, but when Fudge says this, it's in OOTP... and Harry and DD have been 
trying to convince the ministry (Fudge) of Voldemorts return since the end of 
GOF... so it makes sense that fudge would be talking about Voldemort when he says that. He even goes along to talk about the 'invisible dementors' after, and that all goes together with what happens and the explanation that Harry gives.  Lord Voldemort has returned. DD thinks it was him who sent the dementors. DD tells this to fudge in not so many words and fudge doesn't believe it, but somehow, Harry gets off. So, at the time of that quote, Fudge is trying to catch Harry. He doesn't want him to get off... so, I take it like Fudge is a little irritated when he says this, and takes Harry's explanation of Voldemort being back and the Dementor attack before school starts and mocks it with this quote--->"Or was it Potter's identical twin in the Hog's Head that day?  Or is there the usual simple explanation involving a reversal of time, a dead man coming back to life, and a couple of invisible dementors?"

Furthermore, we all have our opinions here and " I'm sorry to burst your 
(Droobles Best Blowing Gum is my FAVORITE!) bubble," is not a very nice way to 
start a post. After all, you are 'Sandy', not 'JKR'... so you don't really know 
what's gonna happen either, do you?

And, "JKR has already said that Sirius really is *dead*; I think she means we 
aren't going to see him again.  Period.  Denial is one stage of grief; let's 
go on to the next one, whatever it is"  And, don't confuse this with *Denial*, 
but just because he's dead, doesn't mean we won't see any more of him. After 
all, both of Harry's parents are dead and we see them through bits and 
glimpses since book 1, right?

-Autumn.








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