Dolores Umbridge
a_reader2003
carolynwhite2 at aol.com
Wed Sep 10 17:13:10 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 80368
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "James McDaniel"
<peppermintfatty at y...> wrote:
(snip long and interesting analysis)
> While I firmly believe that Umbridge is a part human herself, I
> cannot be certain as to what exactly she is. Upon reflection
though, my guess is that in her veins runs Goblin blood.
(snip)
> If Delores is indeed part Goblin, she could be far more important
in the two upcoming books as Goblins may be a key in the coming war.
We know that both sides are courting them in book 5, and every time
they have been brought up in HISTORY OF MAGIC, it has been in
relation to the great Goblin rebellion when they, for a time,
overthrew wizarding kind. Whether you agree or disagree, I just feel
> that this is an option we all might want to consider. Thanks for
> reading.
> ~James
> Hufflepuff
CW comments:
I think you could well be on to something here, but if she is part-
goblin (and it would certainly help explain her appearance), I can't
see her as a goblin spy/agit prop under deep cover, who will emerge
as a negotiator/liaison person later on. Instead, I do think the
goblin blood might have a more deep rooted psychological effect on
her actions, because it fundamentally affects the way she views
herself as a female, and how others view her.
A while ago, as a contribution to the Umbridge rape debate, I posted
(78317)that one of the outcomes of whatever happened in the forest
might be that Umbridge begins a long court case at the MoM, which has
a splitting and destabilising effect on the WW, just as they start to
gear up for war with Voldemort.
Like a previous poster, Tamee, I too had doubted that Umbridge had
really been raped (or that the centaurs had even threatened her with
any such thing), and that the horror of whatever had happened was
more a product of her fearful imagination. I said:
'Your post powerfully reminded me of the themes of EM
Forster's 'Passage to India'. Umbridge could quite easily be seen an
ageing Miss Quested, a bitter, repressed virgin, who has never had
any success attracting men (I wonder why..), and whose deepest fears
include bestial assault. The centaurs' cultural point of view would
be quite as opaque to her as Aziz's was to the British Raj.
It makes me think she might reappear and agitate for some sort of
court case, perhaps about 'false imprisonment of a wizard by a half-
breed under decree no XXX', to try and recover her self-esteem.
Although we would all love to think she was totally discredited, I
can quite imagine an ongoing sub-plot where certain factions in the
MoM support her in this (for example, the appalling Percy, other
wizards with non-PC/pure-blood 'racist' beliefs), their actions
fomented by DEs wherever possible. It would all be part of a very
believable chaos as the fight against Voldie gets going, with people
lining up and having to choose which side they are on.
In Forster's book there was a very ambiguous ending, and the
misunderstanding between British and Indian cultures was not
resolved, although the criminal charge was withdrawn. A court case
against the Centaurs might take a similar course, and have the effect
of alienating them for ever as allies.'
If Umbridge is indeed part goblin, I could imagine her extending the
brief in such a court case, to include goblins, and all non-pureblood
wizarding creatures, all as part of sublimating who she really was.
Hopefully, JKR will not allow the alienation to take place, and will
expose her for what she is, perhaps in a way which is part of a great
reconciliation of magic creatures at the end of book 7.
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