Mistaken identity - part three

laylalast liliana at worldonline.nl
Fri Sep 12 09:56:41 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 80536

Apart from the current Weasley speculation, speculation has also been 
made whether Snape has a kid, and if that kid is at school or will 
come in the near future. My idea is, that if there is such a kid, JKR 
would have let Snape given some clue to its existence. 

One of the things that struck me while reading COS is that the scene 
in which Snape berates Harry and Ron for flying the Ford Anglia, is 
that there are in fact three possible meanings to that scene:
1) Surface meaning: just another way for Snape to get back on Harry 
and his ` faithful sidekick';
2) Deeper meaning; Snape (as a Malfoy family member –see my post 
79062) has ordered Dobby to keep Harry from Hogwarts. Dobby has, 
obviously, not succeeded so Snape now tries himself.
3) Well, what actually happens? Harry and Ron do not attend the 
feast, or more particular at that very moment: the Sorting Ceremony. 
COS pg 65: `The Sorting Ceremony is over,' said Professor McGonagall. 
But this also means that Snape is not present at the sorting either. 

I believe that (3) is the actual meaning of that scene, showing us in 
a very sly and undercover way that Snape does not attend the sorting. 
And why would he do that? Because his kid will be sorted. His kid, 
who does not know him. Who is being sorted that we know of? Ginny 
Weasley and Colin Creevey. 

It could have been Colin Creevey but this is later contradicted by 
GOF when Colin's brother gets sorted. Snape does not have more kids 
in my theory. And that leaves us
. Ginny.

Canon has told us until now that Ginny is a daughter of Arthur and 
Molly. But as someone else mentioned lately, canon is sometimes 
disproven by later canon. Madeye Moody was never someone else until 
he was revealed as poly-juiced Barty Crouch jr.
Why is Ginny with Arthur and Molly? It has been speculated here that 
Arthur has personal experience with the Dark Mark showing above his 
home. It's that and Florence was visiting at the moment and therefore 
killed, or Arthur had to come to his sister's house, with the Dark 
Mark hovering above it. Either way, Florence is dead.
Snape, being a spy, is in no position to take care of Ginny. If he is 
ever outed, he is dead and Ginny too. After Voldemorts' downfall, 
that situation is not different as he, like Dumbledore and Hagrid, 
expects that one day Voldemort will be back. Next to that, Snape 
might distrust himself as father. He is no fool, after all. 

In addition to that: how do Arthur and Molly treat other children who 
stay with them but are not family. Very affectionate and caring, 
Molly especially. And Harry is being treated as a foster-son. 

OotP pg 85: `He's not your son,' said Sirius quietly. `He's as good 
as,' said Mrs Weasley fiercely. `Who else has he got?'

GOF: comforting Harry after Voldemort's rising (sorry, too difficult 
to translate just like that)

IMO, canon has it  that if a kid enters the Weasley family as a 
fosterchild at a very young age, it will be their kid to Arthur and 
Molly. That is also why, still IMO, we are so often told about their 
affectionate and parental behaviour. 

And is there additional evidence that it is Ginny who is the daughter 
of Snape and Florence? In canon:

OotP pg 149: `I don't believe it! I don't believe it! Oh Ron, how 
wonderful! A prefect! That's everyone in the family!'. `What are Fred 
and I, next-door neighbours?' said George indignantly'

OotP pg 160: Ron's dead body – Bill's body – Mr Weasley  -Dead twins –
 Dead Percy – Dead Harry 


In the first scene Fred, George and Ginny are excluded, in the second 
scene Charlie and Ginny. Both times: Ginny. Surface explanations like 
Ginny cannot yet be a prefect and hey, Charlie was left out as well 
are IMO red herrings. The significance is that Ginny is not included 
TWICE.

Add to that the following:

OotP pg 73: ` Snape never eats here,' Ron told Harry quietly.'

The idea has been brought up that Snape does not eat at Grimmauld's 
place because of Sirius or the dislike of the other Order members. 
But at dinner Order members are not always present as we learn later, 
but during the summer holidays ALL the Weasleys are.  And does 
nowadays Snape really strikes us as someone who is bothered by the 
dislike of others? 

And Molly is concerned about how Snape is being treated:

OotP pg 457: `Snape?' said Harry blankly. `Professor Snape, dear. In 
the kitchen. He'd like a word.' 

Surface explanation: Molly is just insisting on Harry showing 
respect. But below that
. Molly is the foster-mother of Snape's 
daughter.

Before I gave Florence a few character traits which I would explain 
later. IMO, it is Ginny's character growth shown in OOtP which is a 
clue in itself. They come from her mother, Florence. Ginny is not 
subdued by Harry's sultry behavior now as Florence was not subdued by 
Snape's sultry behavior then.

It does also explain Dumbledore's trust in Snape. Snape will never 
betray the side his daughter is with, even if he has little feelings 
for her. And Dumbledore's patience with the man. Taking him in a 
fatherly way to the feast in COS, Snape's not wanting Lupin to teach 
in POA (no werewolf at the school where my kid is! –apart from 
Snape's other reasons-). Realising that it is not easy for any 
person, even Snape, to give up its child, distance itself from it.

As an end note I bring to mind JKR's quote as who would want Snape to 
be in love with them. The them is first Florence and later their 
daughter . In the latter case love is not meant in the adult way but 
the child who wants its parent to care about him/her, no matter what. 
Also the quote about the relation `that is at the heart of it all' 
and that the information about Hogwarts' spouses is rather 
restricted. To quote a fictional detective (I believe Lord Peter 
Wimsey – by Dorothy L. Sayers -): If you look at all evidence 
separately, they sort of seem to melt away. Together it becomes 
suspicious. Very suspicious.'

Well.
This is it.
This is what I believe and I'm sticking to it.

Lilian (now looking hopefully at the distant shore of TBAY, wondering 
if this is enough vessel to come into harbour)





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