Mistaken identity - long

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No: HPFGUIDX 80638

"K" I'm not going to answer to your reply entirely as some points are 
about our POV's. And that's ok offcourse, it's what this list is all 
about. But some points I would like to add something to, so here goes.

>"K":
I think it's important to remember the age of Bertha at the time she 
was snooping as we will see later.

GoF/Ch 30 Instantly, a figure rose out of it, a plump, scowling girl 
of about sixteen...

Lilian:

This is what Harry sees, he sees a girl who he guesses is about 
sixteen. That does not set in canon that Bertha was actually sixteen 
at the moment. She might have been younger, she might have been 
older. When I was sixteen I was constantly mistaken for 18. By the 
time I was really 18, and thus a legal adult, I had to prove that 
time and time again. So Bertha may very well have been 17 and sitting 
her NEWTS and MWPP-S-L-F two classes lower, sitting their OWLS.

>"K":
James did have his eye on Lily but she wasn't paying him much 
attention. Maybe James was the one and he had to make sure Lily 
didn't hear about it if he ever wanted to have a chance with her.

Lilian:
But then it would have been James who set the Prank, not Sirius. And 
would James be so sure that Lily was going to believe Snape on this? 
Snape called her a `filthy little mudblood' after all.

>"K":
Now this is where the story gets interesting. As you said, if there 
is a child, surely JKR would have given some clues. Maybe she did. 

Post 77832 greatlit2003 the stringly, pallid kid
<snips rest>

Lilian:
Oh, yeah, definitely a possibility also. But what I meant by JKR 
giving clues is that she already started doing so before OotP. 

>"K":
Even if Snape is related to Lucius, can he give orders to Dobby? I 
don't remember.

Lilian:
OotP tells us that Kreacher could take orders from Narcissa because 
she belonged to the family. And she is a cousin of Sirius, as I 
believe Snape to be a cousin of Lucius. Kreacher could only not fully 
betray the Order. And Dobby could only warn Harry in a circumstantial 
way, as he could not fully betray his direct family either.

>"K"
<snip> 
Ginny does not seem to be able to see a thestral.
<snip>
I'm also not sure if Ginny would be of the right age.

Lilian:
Neither could Harry a thestral until after he had witnessed Cedric's 
death. Ginny as a baby would have experienced her mother's death just 
as Harry did his mother's death. Not consciously.

As to Ginny's age, just before the rescue mission goes of to the MOM 
Ginny argues with Harry that she is three years older than Harry when 
he first took on LV. She will certainly know Harry's birthday from 
Ron, so she knows that he is still fifteen in June. From that I 
deduct that Ginny is fourteen. 
Snape turned back to DD's side when he and Florence got together 
again, Ginny was born at least nine months, but probably more, later. 
So if Snape turns sides at the time that Harry is born, then Ginny 
being a year younger fits.

Lilian, who is now really off to bed