another CoS weird Hagrid tidbit

[msbeadsley]

No: HPFGUIDX 80657

HunterGreen wrote:
> That, and I find it odd that they both know each other's names. Now 
> Tom might have made a point of knowing Hagrid's name (obviously 
> knowing about Hagrid's interest in monsters became useful to him), 
> but why would Hagrid know his name?  At this point Tom is 16 and 
> Hagrid is 13 or 14 and (assumingly) they are in different houses 
>(I'm assuming that Tom is in Slytherin, and that Hagrid wasn't), it 
> just seems odd that they would know each other. 

> On a similar note, I wonder if Hagrid knows that Tom later became 
> VD? (if he did, I wonder if that would be cause to protest his 
> expulsion from using magic?). >>>

I think that not only did Tom Riddle make a point of knowing Hagrid's 
name, but he ingratiated himself to him. If he suspected that Hagrid 
was a half-giant (not outside the realm of possibility, IMO), he 
might well have thought not only Hagrid-as-scapegoat but Hagrid-who-
trusts-me could well be useful (as an envoy to the giants, hmmm?  Who 
knows how early he was scheming?)

As for Hagrid knowing that Tom became VD (lovely, that), what else 
could he expect by way of being exonerated?  He became a teacher 
after CoS, after all; and it's not like he could pick up his 
education where it ended, is it?  I'm not sure the "no magic" rule is 
precisely still in effect. (Ollivander did seem to think so in GoF, 
though, didn't he?  About Hagrid not using the pieces of 
his "snapped" wand?) The prohibition may now be due to Hagrid's not 
having completed his years of study rather than a lingering condition 
of the expulsion itself.  I'm glad you brought it up; something like 
this has been teasing at me off and on.

Diana Fischer wrote:
> I guess Hagrid knows Riddle because he is a prefect and top of the 
> classes.  That would explain it. To this comes they have to meet 
> before because Riddle did know about Aragog. This implied Riddle 
> was at first nice and understandable; what after that changed?

I think Tom Riddle was "nice" the way some carnivorous plants 
are "nice" on the outside; he lured people in so he could use/eat 
them later.

Sandy, aka "msbeadsley" who has decided to call Umbridge "She Who 
Must Be AK'd"