new thoughts on students at hogwarts/red flag/canon

[Grey Wolf]

No: HPFGUIDX 80714

Deirdre responded:
> Grey:  Fawkes(pat) was quoting PoA, while you quoted GoF.  Apples and
> oranges.

My wrong - I put down the wrong book after the quote. I could not be 
quoting a quidditch match in GoF because there aren't any. The quote 
about 3/4 and so on is from book 3, Prisoner of Azkaban, exactly from 
the same place Fawkes was supposedly quoting (the Gryffindor-Slytherin 
match at the end of the year).
 
fawkes wrote:
> 1) i didnt use canon, so hears ur red flag back.

You said: "i was reading the POA yesterday (...) and i came across a 
passage about the Griffindor vs. Slytherin final match. They were 
tlaking about how all the students and teachers were in the crowd and 
how 3/4 were all wearing red. but then down at the Slytherin post, 
there were said to be 100 students"

This is using canon - quoting from one of the books or interviews, 
stating this as canonical fact (something that is true in the books). I 
handed you a red flag because you quoted it wrong - the number is not 
100 but 200, changing the argument around completely and thus being a 
major canon violation since you try to build your post on wrong 
grounds.
 
> 2) i was simply proposing the idea that there is something out there 
> showing the 10per year/house might not be correct.

You said: "this is just to further prove the theory about 5girl/5boy 
per grade."

To me, this means that you're presenting canon that supports the 10 
pupils per year. I asumed you also meant per house, although that was 
not clarified.

> 3) i dont agree with that theory of 5boys and 5 girls, so u were 
> wrong in accusing me of contradicting myself by saying that(because 
> i did not).

I could not tell from your post what you believed in. You stated that, 
from the figures in that passage, you found evidence in favour of 
"small Hogwarts" as it is known (or the 10*4*7 number of students). I 
did not accuse you of contradicting yourself, nor did I touch any of 
your opinions. Just corrected your quote, which was wrong, and 
continued to expand the theory slightly.

> 4) i didnt say there were 800: i said on an earlier post before i 
> think it matters about how many magical children were born in each 
> year. 
> ~as always, fawkes(pat)

I have not read that previous post, and it is irrelevant to this 
thread. I agree you did not mention the 800 students - I did, because 
that is what I concluded from the canon you brought up - a minimum 
number of 800 students, with ample possibility for more by playing with 
slack numbers of neutral fans.

See, I believe that there are 1000 students at "big" Hogwarts. I defend 
the multiple campus theory presented first by Catlady, which states 
that Hogwart students are devided into four or more campus to keep the 
numbers small and their magical training hiden from muggle eyes, but 
that Hogwarts Castle in the main campus and in special occasions the 
students from other campuses go to it (Quidditch games, balls, etc.). 
It is a shaky theory at best, but does manage to explain where the 
missing students go.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf