TBAY: "I See London, I See France!"

[erinellii]

No: HPFGUIDX 80911

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "two_flower2" 
<two_flower2 at y...> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Cindy C." 
> > wrote:
> >> Underwear
> > > is often considered a bit of a gag, really. Mildly 
embarrassing, 
> to
> > > be sure, but hardly the climax of what is supposed to be Snape's
> > worst
> > > memory ever. Worse than being a DE. Worse than the Prank. Worse
> > > than whatever he did for Voldemort at the end of GoF.
> > 
> 
> 
>  I don't know, Cindy, if exposing of underwear is really just a 
gag, 
> especially for young people as old as fifteen.  It was precisely 
the 
> underwear part that made me cringe when I read that chapter. And 
the 
> subsequent threat of
>  stripping made the scene even more disturbing. I had the same
>  reaction as Harry: "This is sick." Am I the only one who thinks 
that
>  the whole scene carries a certain whiff of unhealthy sexuality?
>  Another point is that if people who can be good sports about
> stripping of underwear exist at all, Snape, judging from what we' ve
>  seen of his character, is certainly not one of them. Demonstrating
> Snape's graying underwear to the world, James thus exposed his poor
>  physique, his powerty, made him look totally helpless and 
vulnerable,
> and, as you rightly noticed, made all this look funny--for some
> onlookers. Surely, having people laughing at his torturous and 
> humiliating position for somebody with Snape's craving for respect 
is 
> worth than a death threat.
> 
> Twoflower2


I think you're forgetting something.  As I recall it, the memory 
didn't end when Harry was yanked out of it.  As I recall, James was 
just threatening to do worse.  I don't have my book with me, but I 
think he was saying something like "who wants to see me take down 
Snivelus's pants?"  The underwear was indeed not the worst thiing 
that happened that day.  Who knows how bad it got after Harry was 
gone?

Erin