Lucius and the Spying Game and back to MD TBAY

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 81109

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> 
> Hehehe.  You know, I like how your mind works, Jen.  Pip do we have
> some dishwasher detergent we can label her theory?  :D
> 

Jen: Hehe (whispers)I *am* a conspiracy theorist at heart. :)

Not to mention that I was capitalizing on MAGIC DISWASHER to throw 
out one of my pet theories for a little look-see (Lucius would be so 
proud). But, alas, you found the weak spots. Not even *I* believe in 
#8: "Lucius had Kreacher lure Sirius to the MOM on DD's orders so 
Sirius could be taken out of the picture." So, back to the drawing 
board.

But you did mention something in relation to MAGIC DISHWASHER that I 
want to ask about....  

Melody said:
But by saying Dumbledore would allow a child's mind to be possessed by
> Riddle, I just wonder if that is too far.  As far as I am concerned,
> Dumbledore never put that piece in the puzzle until he saw the four
> (Harry, Ron, Lockhart, and Ginny) with the diary in McG's office 
after
> the basilisk died.  He knew the basilisk was being controlled 
somehow,
> but not sure.  
> 
> And in that uncertainty, he allowed the school to stay open to solve
> the mystery.  Not because he put the diary there to possess a young
> mind, release a young virile dark-lord-to-be Riddle, so he then can
> take control of the basilisk, so Harry can be a hero, and the 
basilisk
> can be gone. 

And in the MD TBAY Pip!Squeak said:
[A minor note: the plot of CoS revolves around attacks on 
muggleborns because of their blood. Dumbledore stands by and lets it 
happen in the hope that the resulting battle can destroy the menace 
of the basilisk for once and all. No wonder JKR said that CoS nearly 
gives it all away].


Jen Reese: You are both arguing the same idea, that Dumbledore stood 
by and let the attacks on Muggleborns continue in the hopes that the 
menace of the basilisk would be gone forever. 

Then Melody wonders in this post if it is "going too far" for 
Dumbledore to have initiated the release of the basilisk, ensure the 
diary got in Ginny's hands and allow her to be possessed by LV.

How far is "too far" for Dumbledore to further his agenda? That's the 
part about MD I think I'm misunderstanding.  If DD is knowingly 
allowing Muggleborns to be attacked in the hopes of saving future 
generations from the basilisk, is that OK? DD has no assurances that 
the Muggleborns will only be petrified, not killed (if that even 
matters).  

I can understand in SS/PS where Harry speculates, "I think 
{Dumbledore} sort of wanted to give me a chance....I reckon he had a 
pretty good idea we were going to try, and instead of helping us, he 
just taught us enough to help...It's almost like he thought I had a 
right to face Voldemort if I could....." (US, pg. 302) YES! that is 
DD's philosophy at work--Harry and Co. are working on the mystery, 
*by their own choosing* and Dumbledore accepts their choice and tries 
to help.

But in COS--I seriously doubt any of the Muggleborns are choosing to 
be attacked, in fact they are mortally afraid, and if Dumbledore is 
standing by and allowing the attacks to happen....Isn't that the form 
of Evil Pip!Squeak talked about in answering my other post "evil 
triumphs when good men do nothing?" 

Please tell me if I'm not getting the gist of MD and I will go back 
for a fourth, fifth, sixth reading, I promise......

Jen