Snape giving Occlumency lessons

phoenixmum phoenixtears at fuse.net
Fri Sep 19 16:59:31 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 81132

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nianya_c" <nianya_c at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> IMHO Dumbledore "set up" Harry so that he would have to go and 
> retreive the prophecy......if Harry doesn't go get it for the 
> order....LV's eventually going to go get it himself.
> 
> The occlumency lessons only made Harry's visions stronger to the 
> point where he knew exactly where to go in MOM to get the prophecy. 
> Dumbledore had to know that Harry wasn't going to learn to block 
the 
> visions by working with Snape.....maybe he even wanted Harry to 
> learn something about the history of Snape/Harry's parents'.
>> Okay that puts me on the precarious edge of the limb so feel free 
to 
> knock me off.
> 
> Nia

Reply:

Well, since you asked:

Despite all the theories posted about Dumbledore's possible 
duplicity, having a long-term stategy that necessitates him lying 
repeatedly to Harry and others, I believe Dumbledore is meant (by 
JKR) to represent a higher moral standard.(Ex: it is DD who decries 
the prejudice in the wizarding world.)  When DD talks to Harry after 
the confrontation in the MOM, the whole tone of the scene is truth 
revealed, and genuine remorse by DD that he *withheld* information 
from Harry.  In the hospital scene at the end of PS/SS, DD tells 
Harry he may not answer  certain questions, but he will not "of 
course" lie to him. DD explains why he used Snape for the lessons 
instead of himself, and describes this decision as a mistake.  While 
JKR has a running theme of characters not being what they seem at 
first glance, I also think her stated (in numerous interviews) theme 
of good versus evil requires that someone like DD be present to 
counter the evil of Voldemort.  For DD to be revealed in the end as 
manipulative and duplicitous would undermine his moral authority.

Phoenix





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