MAGIC DISHWASHER (TBAY INTRO): Spying Game Philosophy - The Phoenix must die!

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No: HPFGUIDX 81148

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "bluesqueak" <pipdowns at e...> 
> wrote:
 My philosophy is that evil cannot 
> > create, only destroy. It is a parasite, a cancer, a destructive 
> > force. It takes what good has created and tries to destroy or 
> > corrupt it. If good sometimes seems to come out of evil, it is 
only  because good is so powerful that it can repair what evil has 
done.  Death is not necessarily evil; it can be a transformation.> 
> 
> Jen: 
 That's a good point, and I see where our philosophies differ. I 
think patially it's my use of the term Yin and Yang when "duality" 
> would be a better word. 
> 
> So I'll try again: If Good Creates and Evil Destroys, how is that 
> *not* duality ?  Evil will never be truly vanquished; it must exist 
> if the Power of Transformation can ever take place. If Evil is 
> vanquished, how can we distinguish Good? There is no choice to 
make, no free will, if both do not exist.
> 
> Also to clarify my views, I didn't intend to equate Evil=Death. I 
was  merely using Life and Death as an analogy for why things cannot 
exist in a vacuum--we must have one to have the other.  I see Death 
as a natural part of the life-cycle which includes birth, growth, 
decay, death and rebirth.  Good and Evil exist within the life-cycle, 
but don't supercede it.
> 
<snip> 
> I really believe Dumbledore's trying to impart an age-old wisdom 
> about the Imperfect World when he tells Harry: "It will merely take 
> someone else who is prepared to fight what seems like a losing 
battle next time--and if he is delayed again, and again, why, he may 
never return to power." 
> 
> So in the end, is Fire really better than Ice? <snip> 

Laura:

It sounds to me like Pip believes in the idea that humanity can 
perfect itself, whereas Jen believes in the endless duality of 
existence.  It's sort of a Western-Eastern split.  Western religions 
argue for the possibility of redemption (they differ on where and 
how, though).  But my understanding of Eastern religions is that they 
tend to see existence more as a cycle than as a trajectory, with 
events and patterns endlessly repeating themselves.  So while DD's 
remarks above sound like they come from the Eastern perspective, 
Pip's latest incarnation of MD would suggest that DD takes the 
Western view-if I'm understanding all of this right.