Book 6 prediction and Hermione's comment

linlou43 linlou43 at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 20 02:25:11 UTC 2003


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  Pip!Squeak wrote a superb post. I don't agree with all of it but 
there were only a couple of points I felt compelled to comment on at 
the present. Therefore, I have snipped her astounding extrapolations 
until there was very little left. 


     <HUGE snip>

> The wizarding world is also deeply corrupt. <snip>
>  That is how deep the racism and the 
> corruption has gone. Everyone in the WW is affected by it. Even 
> Hermione, herself muggle born, has one or two worrying comments 
> about how her parents can `understand' concepts like `prefect'. 
[OOP 
> Ch. 9 p. 151]    <HUGE snip>

  
     Although I completely agree with the premise that Voldemort is 
a logical result of wizard society as it currantly operates, I 
disagree with your use of Hermione's statement as support for that 
premise. There was a thread at some point( sorry, with the currant 
volume, I can't even remember how long ago) dealing with Hermione's 
relationship with her parents. It was commented on that she never, 
especially from the end of GOF on, seemed to see her parents. She 
spent both the summer and Christmas breaks at Grimmauld place. 
However, I don't think there is estrangement there. Instead, I can 
see a lot of awkward silences during parent/daughter conversations. 
As muggles with no prior experience of the WW before their 
daughter's invitation to attend Hogwarts, they probably have very 
little in common right now. Recall how uncomfortable they looked at 
Gringotts in COS. Relationships between parents and their teenage 
children can be strained und3er ideal circumstances, and Hermione's 
parents don't even have their own school experiences to draw upon 
for a common ground with their daughter. That's what I think 
Hermione meant with her comment. She doesn't think the WW is 
superior to the muggle world in which her parents lead their lives, 
just that the WW is totally alien to them. They have no frame of 
referance for it. Prefect is something they "can understand" because 
it is within their frame of reference.
         
         
 
Replying to Remant's comments Pip!Squeak added in a later post: 

> If I had to make a prediction about Book Six, it will be that this 
> will be the book that will see the Mysterious Agendas finally out 
in 
> the open. The `dishwasher phase' will end (though it may be very 
> close to the end of book 6).

       
   Very close to the end of book 6? I don't know if it will take 
that long but IMO the process has already begun. Dumbledore's speach 
to Harry in his office illustrates this. Dumbledore admits aloud to 
Harry that he is fallible. There is no placating here, just bald 
admittance. Is not admittance the first step to recovery? Fallible!
Dumbledore in no way invalidates Wise!Dumbledore. The man is not 
stupid. How much of that admittance was not to Harry, but himself. 
Methinks it marks a change in Dumbledore's policies-maybe not his 
desired result , but the way in which he pursues that result.


 Well, I guess that all I wanted to say......for now - linlou







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