Dumbledore's Philosophy (WAS: MAGIC DISHWASHER: Spying Game Philosophy

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 81235

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)" 
<catlady at w...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jen Reese" <stevejjen at e...> 
wrote:
> 
>> The Dumbledore quote (from CoS) did not say that our choices 
*make* 
> us who we are, it said that our choices *show* who we truly are. 
> That statement, "show", can go along with either free will or
> predestination. (There was a *gorgeous* post explaining that, which 
I
> will quote below.) <snipped most, see below>
> 

Jen:

The qoute I used was *definitely* from GOF (p. 708 US version), not 
COS.  Dumbledore is talking to Fudge about his bias toward pure blood 
in "Parting of the Ways" and DD says: "You fail to recognize that it 
matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be!"  That's 
why I used that perticular quote in regards to the prophecy, because 
it's not Harry's blood in this case, but he was born with "the power 
to vanquish the Dark Lord".  DD's quote tells me that even in Harry's 
case, he (DD) believes who Harry grows to be is the most important 
thing--that choice piece again!

I really liked you post and the one from Aberforth's goat and they 
will help me sysnthesize my thoughts on DD. "gamer" also pointed out 
to me that the prophecy wasn't really predestination since Harry has 
the "power to vanquish" not that fate dictates it...Jen