The Death Chamber

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No: HPFGUIDX 81661

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <darkmatter30 at y...> wrote:
> entropy continues: And, as a side note: although I wouldn't be
particularly happy to see
> > Harry fall through the veil in a firestorm of curses and kadavras,
> > only to be reborn by coming back through at a later time (it seems 
> so
> > "Dallas"/it-was-all-just-a-dream), it would tie up the 
> whole "phoenix"
> > imagery rather well, don't you think? 
> 
> 
> I, Richard (though not a caesarian emperor) say:
><snip>
> I'm not sure that anyone other than Voldemort can kill Harry, or that 
> Voldemort can kill him with a Avada Kedavra.  The prophecy in OotP 
> says that either must die at the other's hands as neither can live 
> with the other survives.  <snip>
> We've been living with the fact of Harry's survival of the first AK 
> fired at him since early in PS/SS ... which obviously failed, but for 
> which we still have no complete explanation other than that it was 
> PROBABLY his mother's love and sacrifice that protected him.  This 
> protection might well be more durable than even Dumbledore suspects, 
> at least with regard to the AK.  Harry has also survived other AK 
> attempts, such as Lucius Malfoy's interupted AK from the CoS movie, 
> and another AK fired at him at the MoM and blocked by the statue.  
> But would any of these really have killed him?  Is it perhaps 
> REQUIRED that either Harry or Voldemort LITERALLY kill the other with 
> his hands for the prophecy to be fulfilled? 

> It may well be that Lucius should be very glad that his AK was 
> interupted by Dobby, else it might have recoiled upon him much as 
> Voldemort's had ... but Lucius likely hasn't gone to the lengths 
> Voldemort had in seeking immortality.  Might Bellatrix be unaware of 
> how close she came to death in attacking Harry and friends?  For the 
> prophecy to hold in detail, something must ALWAYS save Harry from any 
> lethal attack by any other than Voldemort himself. 
 
Interesting to think that Harry is, in fact, immortal (to some
extent).  That is, he cannot be killed by anyone other than Voldemort.

To take it a step further, perhaps therein lies the reason that Harry
was not killed by Voldemort in the first go round. Even Voldemort
himself couldn't kill Harry until the rest of the prophecy had been
fulfilled. Assuming that the prophecy is correct, it's steps may have
to be taken in the proper order:

1. First, Harry is born: "...born to those who have thrice defied him,
born as the seventh month dies..."

2. Then, he is endowed with certain powers by Voldemort's AK curse:
"...and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have
power the Dark Lord knows not..."

3. And only after these other two requirements have been filled, can
the battle between Harry and Voldemort occur: "...and either must die
at the hand of the other..."

:: Entropy :: (who is beginning to think that Richard must be wearing
smarty pants)