Let's stop comparing pains !! (Re: Harry enjoying his friends pain )
delwynmarch
delwynmarch at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 1 09:30:39 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 94769
Susanne wrote:
> > It's not that because Harry has more "excuses", now nobody
> > else can feel bad.
> >
> > Ron has things that hurt his feelings, and so does Hermione,
> > and everybody else, no matter if there is somebody else out
> > there, who gets hurt more often.
> >
> > You can't tell other people, that they now
> > have lost their right to feel bad about anything (or the
> > right to express these feelings), unless it's as bad
> > as what soandso is going through.
> >
> > Other people deserve compassion just as much as Harry
> > Potter, and I'm pretty sure Harry would agree with me (most
> > of the time),
Del :
I completely agree with you, Susanne !
Alla :
> Other people can feel bad, of course and Ron's insecurities are
> very "down to earth", but it just to me as a reader they seem quit
> einsignificant in comparison to Harry.
Del :
Harry's problems are *bound* to seem bigger than anyone else's,
since the story is told from Harry's point of view ! My problems are
always bigger than yours, because they are mine so I see them up
close (where a mole-hill looks like a mountain) and they have an
emotional effect on me. Your problems, on the other hand, I see from
a distance (easier to see the solution) and I can analyse
dispassionately.
Alla :
> I mean he feels "overshadowed" by his family,I can understand
> that, but at the same time Harry has no parents and when Ron
> complains about his mother, well, he does seem as an ungrateful
> brat to me.
Del :
Which is worse : no father, a violent father, a sexually abusing
father, a father who's always away, a poor father, a "disappointing"
father, a father in prison, a father with too high expectations of
you, a father who doesn't care about you, a father who favours your
brother, a divorced father, a remarried father, any real father... ?
We simply can't "rate" problems.
Alla :
> He is entitled to his feelings, but as I said at those moments I,
> as a reader don't find him very sympathetic.
Del :
Let me tell you about my own experience : I went through 15 years of
depression being told that I shouldn't feel so bad, since I had so
many good things in my life, and so few problems.
Oh sure, I had no father, but I had a wonderful mother, and anyway
having no father is much better than having a "bad" father.
Oh sure, I had been abused sexually as a pre-teen, but I hadn't been
raped, had I ? It was only touching, not really bad.
Oh sure, I was poor, shy and fat. But those were a problem only in
my head, I was only imagining that the other kids were tough with me
because of it. And it wasn't like they were beating me up anyway.
And I was so bright, so mature, I was living in such good
conditions, I was going to school, I had such a loving mom and
wonderful sister, etc, etc... How did I *dare* being depressed !?
How could I be so ungrateful towards all the great things God (or
life if you prefer) gave me ? How could I not see that there were
tons of people who had many more, and much better, reasons to
suffer, than pampered sissy attention-seeking little me ? I should
be ashamed of being depressed ! I should stop being depressed,
because I wasn't worthy of it !
It's only when I met my future husband, at age 27, that my feelings
were validated for the very first time in my life. He was the first
one to tell me that there was no being right or wrong when feeling
bad. I was depressed and I had as much right as anyone else to be.
It was a big surprise for me, I even refused to listen to him for
months. And it was only when I allowed myself to be depressed that I
began being able to really do something about it. That's when I
granted myself the right to suffer from it that I finally recognised
what being born and raised without a father had done to me (how
could I love myself when my own father had refused to love me as a
baby ?). That's when I accepted that I had a right to suffer from it
that I saw clearly how much the sexual abuse I received as a pre-
teen destroyed me, even though there had been no technical rape (I
was put in a sexual role I was not ready to fill, by someone who was
supposed to protect me). It's only when I allowed my anger towards
all those people who had tried to minimise my trials to flare up,
that I was able to find real comfort, help and support. They were
wrong to tell me I shouldn't feel bad, they were wrong to tell me
that it wasn't as bad as what other people were enduring, they were
wrong to minimise my problems. They were wrong to deny my pain.
And whoever tries to minimise Ron's problems (or whoever else)
because Harry's problems are "bigger", is doing the exact same thing.
Both boys need help. Both boys deserve total compassion. Period.
And what about a competition between Harry and Neville ? Should be
tough...
Del, who thinks that when someone suffers, they deserve to be
offered help, support and compassion. Even Tom Riddle.
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