Drill Sargeant (with a tiny bit of ontopic talk...)
cubfanbudwoman
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Thu Apr 1 15:54:38 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 94810
Siriusly Snapey Susan:
> if it's really THAT important for Snape to prepare these two
> particular students for the inevitable battle(s) with Voldy, he's
> GOT to find a way to reach them. Being cruel, sarcastic & nasty
> doesn't seem to be cutting it w/ the two students who most need to
> learn, so why doesn't he STOP the drill sergeant routine w/ them
> and find a way to help them learn? SURELY he can *see* that it's
> not working with them? <snip> Why isn't he re-evaluating his
> technique with Harry and Neville?<<
Pippin:
> Because he's not a flexible person. His way is the only way he
> knows. But I think you just put your finger on why Dumbledore
> won't let Snape teach DADA. The one thing that whole crew of
> naive (Quirrell, before he became possessed), incompetent,
> careless, gonzo teachers hasn't done, except for Umbridge who
> was not Dumbledore's choice, is put Harry off the subject.
> Dumbledore knows Snape would make people hate DADA and
> he can't afford that, not with the war coming.
Siriusly Snapey Susan:
Fascinating thought. That sometimes it really can be something so
simple as "he's not flexible", when I suppose the tendency is to over-
analyze. I like how this fits w/ the DADA thing if, indeed, Snape
really did want that job.
Pippin:
> Harry's loathing of potions may hinder his career choices but so
> far it hasn't made much of a difference in the battles with
> Voldemort. <snip> But Harry and Neville are tested under pressure
> in his class. They do learn to handle it, Harry better than
> Neville, but Neville learns too.
Siriusly Snapey Susan:
All true enough. It does seem that Snape's treatment of Harry *in
potions class* has NOT caused him to have an overall crisis of self-
confidence, for he's gone right on taking risks and rising to the
challenges he's encountered [or gone after].
Pippin:
> Now if this was Dumbledore's plan, then it obviously backfired
> when Snape had to teach Harry Occlumency, a skill which he
> thought Harry really did need, but not one which Dumbledore
> anticipated would have to be taught by Snape.
Siriusly Snapey Susan:
Agreed.
Pippin:
> I also think, as I've said before, that IMO, this was a felix
> culpa, since Occlumency only opened Harry's mind further to
> Voldemort in a way which Dumbledore, IMO, did not expect. I think
> Voldemort was already finding it difficult to enter Harry's mind
> because of the strength of Harry's positive emotions, and by
> clearing his mind, emptying it of emotion, Harry became more
> vulnerable.
Siriusly Snapey Susan:
Or, alternatively, perhaps the presence of *negative* emotions &
thoughts--anger, rage, hatred regarding Snape--made it "riper" ground
for Voldy to enter. I offer this because I'm not sure Harry was
really having that much luck emptying himself of emotion.
Pippin:
> Interestingly, there was an article in this Sunday's New York
> Times magazine about a baseball coach and his Snape-like
> methods. The sub-title is " Was it abusive rage or tough love?"
> and the article suggests that sometimes it's all in the eyes of the
> parents.
Siriusly Snapey Susan:
Surely you don't think Snape is capable of [tough] loving *Harry*?! ;-
)
Siriusly Snapey Susan
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