Clue that Dumbledore and Harry had a previous relationship...

[samwise_the_grey]

No: HPFGUIDX 94987

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "cerebella316" 
<cerebella316 at y...> wrote:
> Siriusly Snapey Susan:
> 
> I always thought this remark simply meant that--because he has let 
> Harry down, because he has failed in some ways, and because Harry 
> is so angry with him--DD is wondering if their close relationship 
> might be *over*.  Comments?
> 
> 
> Then Steffy07:
>  
> OOTP was my favorite book of the series for many reasons, it was 
> dark, amusing, surprising and touching.  I am a huge, HUGE, Lupin 
> and Sirius fan and was devasted at Sirius' death.  But, the part of 
> the book that affected me the most was when DD is talking to Harry, 
> and Harry is expressing so much rage and frustration.  I thought 
> that DD was scared that maybe Harry wouldn't forgive him.  I don't 
> have my copy of OOTP in front of me, but I seem to recall him 
crying 
> (or getting teary-eyed) when he said why he didn't make Harry 
> prefect?  Dumbledore loves Harry, and he has seen Harry suffer so 
> much, I think that he is worried that maybe their relationsihp 
might 
> suffer.
>  
> With that being said, however, I always took that particular quote 
> to mean that LV could never know how much of a role DD had played 
in 
> shaping Harry's life while Harry was at Hogwarts.  That he didn't 
> need to know how close they were even back in the SS/COS years.
> 
> 
> Now Bella:
> 
> I have to say that this was one of the most emotional HP scenes for 
> me. It really shows how much Harry hurts and how much Dumbledore 
> cares. It shows DD like a father who tried to do what was best for 
> Harry (and Sirius), but in fact chose to do what was worst! Happens 
> all the time in real life!
> 
> And, personally, I think what DD meant with his remark about 
> Voldemort realizing their relationship is that DD was afraid 
> Voldemort would realize that Dumbledore loves Harry and use that to 
> his advantage (like he did when he possessed Harry and goaded 
> Dumbledore to kill him in Harry's body and Dumbledore couldn't do 
> it!) Knowing that DD loves HP could be a powerful weapon for LV. 
> (Heehee--all the abbrevations sound funny to read!)
> 
> Also, I find it interesting that he alludes to a relationship with 
> Harry that Harry really hasn't come to realize and count on. Harry 
> *does not* turn to DD for support. He likes being "Dumbledore's 
> favorite boy," and he never wants DD to think him weak or scared or 
> crazy. So he actually often shies away from turning to DD for help. 
> 
> But I think Harry will now. I think the conversation that DD was 
> afraid would end their *relationship* will actually make it 
> stronger. (Or at least I hope it does!)
> 
> ~Bella, who hopes beyond hope that Harry finally becomes 
comfortable 
> in turning to DD for support, now that Sirius is gone. If not DD, 
> then Lupin, or Mrs. Figg, or--God!--even Snape! Just someone!! Or 
> all of them! He's really going to need as much support as he can 
get!

Now Samwise

I dunno if I agree with you on that one Bella. Harry has confided in 
Dumbledore about things he wouldn't talk about with anyone else 
(being sorted to slytherin, seeing his Dad in POA). Does he go to the 
headmaster about everything? No, but he is (was??) a teacher Harry 
felt he could confide in and respected very much. Whether that will 
go away due to ill feelings on Harry's part remains to be seen. I 
wouldn't be surprised to see their relationship strained in book 6. 
Harry's more rebellious than ever and he'll listen to your advice, 
but he more than likely won't take it. Who knows, perhaps he'll be 
less head strong next year after what happened in the DOM. As for 
being "Dumbledore's boy" I've never seen Harry wanting to be a 
teacher's favorite student. Harry doesn't like to be vunerable in 
front of anybody, period. Although he has let his guard down with 
people he trusts (it's a short list). And he probably would have told 
DD about the voice in the wall had R&H not discourged him.  

Harry almost confided in Lupin a few times in POA but didn't because 
it involved rule breaking. He hasn't thought about going to Lupin 
since, but that could change since Lupin is knowledgable and 
approachable. The only problem perhaps is whether Lupin will actually 
be around to lend an ear. And Snape?? NEVER, EVER!!! Mrs. Figg...Nah. 
I should think the less they're seen together the better. I bet Figgy 
will get the ax eventually and leave the Dursley home vunerable at 
some point. Harry seems to become more susceptable to attack as the 
series progresses. Hogwart's may very well be the last safe haven 
he'll have...for awhile, then there won't be any.