Why were the sacrifices different? (was: A moral theory of Magic )
nkafkafi
nkafkafi at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 6 14:49:38 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 95315
> Siriusly Snapey Susan:
> Thanks, Kneasy, Ffi & Max, for answering the questions I raised.
> Your comments all help it to make more sense. STILL, I'm just a
wee
> little annoyed that James' death gets such short shrift! So Lily
> *thought* [or was instructed, per Kneasy's comments] to apply the
> ancient magic that would save Harry. That's true sacrifice!
STILL,
> James chose to die saving Lily & Harry, as well. Just because he
> didn't apply the ancient magic which ended up saving Harry, he
still
> sacrificed himself for the hope of saving their lives. Seems he--
and
> all those other wizards who did likewise for their families--should
> get a little more "credit".
>
> Oh, how I hate to dredge up the idea of sexism here, but it reads
to
> me kind of like the stereotypes "Men are used to sacrificing
> themselves in war" and "A mother's love is supreme" are being
> evaluated to say that one is greater than the other. Y'all know I
> love JKR and these books, but this is how the emphasis on these two
> deaths feels *to me*. Maybe JKR will reveal things about Godric's
> Hollow which will clear this all up for me in 6 or 7, but for now I
> dislike that Lily's sacrifice is painted as so much greater than
> James'. [Please be gentle if you disagree; this is an emotional
> reaction on my part, not a rational argument of anything.]
Neri:
My take on it is that Lily's and James's sacrifices were *not* that
different. They were different in the nuances, perhaps just because
Lily and James were different persons. James as a man couldn't help
but go down fighting, but he knew well that he is not as powerful as
Voldemort and he was only buying his family a small chance at the
price of his life. Lily as a woman pretended to be helpless while
preparing a hidden dagger for a low strike, and she consciously paid
for the chance to strike with her life. The results of these two
sacrifices were different in details, but very similar in principal:
Lily's sacrifice gave Harry his blood protection. James's sacrifice
gave Harry a very powerful patronus to defend him. It might be argued
that Lily's sacrifice was the more powerful, but this is rather
splitting hairs IMO. The interesting thing is how *similar* are these
two sacrifices in their nature and in their results. This what make
me think that they have the same kind of magic underlying them.
Neri
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