Snape, A Murderer? (Was: Re: Is Wormtail an Occlumens or an open book?)

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Carol wrote:
> > I don't think I can justify this with canon, but somehow I don't 
> > think Snape is a wizard of the Mugglebaiting/Mugglemurdering 
> > type. On the other hand, I *can* see him use an Unforgivable on a 
> > fellow wizard....
 
NB: It has occurred to me that IF Snape's function among the DE's was
> > to make potions and/or poisons....

Kneasy [with one of the best-liners I've seen here in awhile] wrote:
> Snape is my favourite character, but I have no difficulty in 
> believing that he has killed on Voldy's orders. He is (or was) a 
> Death Eater and you don't get to be in that club by sending in 10 
> Butterbeer tops and paying £1.50. Oh no.

> He started fairly young -  a little snippet that many miss is in 
> the 'grey underwear' scene; when attacked his throws a curse back 
> at James and opens a wound on his face that pours with blood. Not 
> the sort of spell that they seem to teach at Hogwarts. No, Snape 
> would have little problem with killing - in general terms anyway. 
> His reaction in the Shrieking Shack confirms it - give him one 
> excuse and he will kill. Reminiscent of a reformed alcoholic 
> fighting the temptation of a drink.

Siriusly Snapey Susan:
Interesting observations, and they do seem to support the idea that 
Snape was/is likely accomplished in Dark Arts and has/had been 
willing to use them.


Kneasy:
> Moody is a long-time friend and he's a killer. Does DD look on him 
> as a pariah? No. He did what was necessary. If you fight a war you 
> get your hands dirty; to pretend that somehow it's possible to 
> defeat Voldy and be able to avoid inflicting casualties on the 
> enemy is not credible. It wasn't in the last Voldy war, why should 
> it be different this time? He has to win the war. Any other 
> alternative is not acceptable. And he will use whatever means are 
> at his disposal that he thinks will work.
> 
> Snape seems to be extremely useful, perhaps even a key member of 
> DD's team. DD wouldn't tie his own hands together by being too 
> fastidious about what Snape may or may not have done in the past so 
> long as he obeys DD's orders in the future.


Siriusly Snapey Susan:
While I find your argument that DD might well be willing to take 
Snape on even if he had done some killing interesting, I do have a 
potential quibble w/ that sentence "And he [DD] will use whatever 
means are at his disposal that he thinks will work."

DD had the opportunity to use AK against Voldy in the MoM battle and 
chose not to.  We don't know what DD threw at him, but whatever it 
was, it caused Voldy to scoff or laugh at him, did it not?.  So 
*WILL* DD use any means, do you think?  Was that a moral or legal 
line he wasn't willing to cross that day?  Or did he not use AK 
simply because he believes he somehow can't succeed in using it 
against Voldy [believing the prophecy to mean *Harry* would have to 
kill Voldy & all that]?

Just wondering.
Siriusly Snapey Susan