Moody!Crouch and defence against Imperius

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 95474

owlery2003 wrote:
  
Didn't moody!crouch preface these lessons with some statement 
that dumbledore thought the class was ready/needed to know about the 
unforgiveables? <snip>

I (Carol) wrote:
One slight problem. Crouch!Moody was a loyal DE and a madman who was
determined to turn Harry over to his Master to be murdered. I think
that's sufficient reason to doubt his word.
 
Potioncat responded:
The real problem is, was this DE telling a lie or was he using the 
truth?  He was telling the truth when he said he hated a DE who 
walked free, but it didn't mean what we thought it did.

Carol responds:
Yes, that was one creative bit of truth-twisting. But I don't see how
"Dumbledore told me to do it" could be the same sort of statement.
Either it's true (and I'm all wrong about Dumbledore), or it was a
straight-out lie that he knew the students wouldn't question. I'm
pretty sure that he had his own reasons for demonstrating illegal
curses and actually using them on the students, primarily to teach
Harry, and only Harry, to resist the Imperius Curse to make sure that
he won the tournament. The chance to manipulate innocent people as he
himself had been manipulated may have been a bonus to his sick psyche.

I don't know for a fact that Crouch!Moody was lying, but I don't think
we should accept his word as undeniable fact given who he was and what
he was doing. We should at least consider the possiblilty that he was
acting on his own and lying about Dumbledore's permission.

Do you really think that DD would have told the real Moody, who
apparently opposed the use of Unforgiveables even on DEs, to Imperio
the students? I think it's completely out of character. But then, I
don't buy the DD as ruthless puppetmaster theory.

Carol