CoS - The Very Secret Diary
laylalast
liliana at worldonline.nl
Fri Apr 9 10:35:48 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 95499
> amanitamuscaria wrote:
> Yep, I'm re-reading CoS again!
> A thing that struck me this time was that Tom Riddle's diary
> doesn't lie.
<snip>
> It came to me because Riddle had to show Harry the bit about
> Hagrid and the Acromantula and let him draw his own conclusions,
> he couldn't lie and tell Harry 'Hagrid opened the Chamber.'
> There's a bit in the diary where Tom says 'I caught the
> person who'd opened the Chamber and he was expelled.'
Lilian here:
But isn't that a downright lie? Tom did *not* catch the person who
opened the Chamber, as that person was himself. He did, however,
catch Hagrid keeping a monster, an offence for which Hagrid was
expelled. In addition, Tom handled the matter so carefully, that
everyone believed that Hagrid's monster was the monster of the
Chamber.
> amanitamuscaria wrote:
> so it seems to imply Hagrid, but later in the same para, he
> says, '... the one who had the power to release it was not
> imprisoned.', and Hagrid was.
Lilian:
This is Tom's careful phrasing again. First he talks about being
expelled (which Hagrid was) THEN he speaks of being imprisoned
(which Hagrid was not). And in this latter sentence he tells the
truth, he himself had the power to release the monster from the
Chamber and he was *not* imprisoned. But by this time using the
word 'imprisoned', he makes it sound as if he is still talking about
Hagrid.
> amanitamuscaria wrote:
<snip>
> The careful phrasing made it seem like it was a condition or rule
> of the object that one couldn't lie?
Lilian:
Personally I think that the careful phrasing is done by Tom's memory
in the diary, which speaks with a 'double tongue' (is that the right
phrase?), meaning that he makes his lies sound thruthfully if the
listener (characters in the books, not us readers) does not catch
those differences. And yes, I think that Tom's memory is lying.
> amanitamuscaria wrote:
> Another other thing about this chapter is that Harry's using red
> ink - this surely isn't standard practice? 'All his other books
> were drenched in scarlet ink ... he pulled a new bottle out of his
> bedside cabinet...'
Lilian:
Well, as his bottle with scarlet ink was now empty, and he could not
go into Hogsmeade to buy new ink, perhaps he simply moved on to the
next bottle of ink in bedside cabinet? :)
Well, just my thoughts.
Lilian, who has figured out what went wrong with her previous posts.
Just turn the security off before pressing 'send'.
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