poor molly? the lack of information

[delwynmarch]

No: HPFGUIDX 95905


mommystery2003 wrote:
> > The child has to realize who is the boss.  Harry has 
> > yet to learn that.  

And Sienna replied :
> I don't think Harry really has this luxury.  Whether he wants it 
> or not (and more importantly whether Molly accepts it or not) he 
> is the key to defeating Voldemort.

Del :
So what ? Elite fighting units don't get told everything that's 
going on, from international diplomacy to internal state of affairs. 
They are just told what they need to know.
Moreover, just because Harry is the only one able to defeat LV 
doesn't mean that he's the only thing that matters. If left alone, 
he will fail. If DD hadn't been there to save the day in OoP, Harry 
would be dead or worse. Harry is the most valuable weapon in the 
weaponry, but he's most definitely not the only one. The Good Side 
has got many other weapons, and Harry doesn't need to know about 
those. This is a *team* effort, and Harry has to learn to act like a 
good soldier, not like a general.

Sienna :
> That means he needs to prepare and he needs to be trained.

Del :
There's no need to know why you are being trained in order to be 
trained well. Army recruits don't ask why they are told to learn 
this or that, they just assume their instructors know better. I 
don't ask my car mechanic why he does this or that, I just assume he 
knows better. And when I happen to be the expert, I get annoyed if 
whomever I am instructing doubts every single one of my teachings. 
Harry was told again and again how important it was for him to learn 
some skills, and yet he didn't apply himself because he didn't know 
why he had to do it, so he felt it wasn't important. And still he 
knew he had already been possessed by LV once, during the Snake 
Dream. He even reacted to that piece of knowledge with complete 
hysteria and paranoia. It's no wonder in my opinion that nobody told 
him more about what he risked.

Sienna :
> The only one in the position to 'boss' him around is Dumbledore 

Del :
Said who ?

Sienna :
> and even he admitted that he should have been open and honest with 
> Harry.

Del :
But nobody knows what would have happened if he had been more open. 
Maybe things would have been even worse, we just can't know.

Sienna :
> Harry had no idea that Voldemort would try and lure him out or 
> that he had any reason to.  He was going purely on past experience 
> which told him that the last time he had seen someone in trouble, 
> they WERE in trouble.

Del :
Harry *could* have known if he had really thought about it. Hermione 
did guess it, she even tried to tell Harry, but he *refused* to 
listen. Harry acted then as any kid would have : he let his emotions 
control him. He's just a *kid* ! Not a 10-year-old one, granted, but 
still a 15-year-old one, and not exceptionally mature or anything.

Sienna :
> I'm all for discipline but there's also something to be said for 
> realising that everybody has a breaking point.

Del :
In CoS, Harry thinks he might be evil because he's a Parselmouth. In 
PoA, he thinks badly of himself because he faints when he's around 
Dementors. In OoP, he thinks he's a danger to his friends because he 
dreamt he was a great big snake attacking Arthur. DD knows that 
Harry is very quick to blame himself and take amazingly rash 
actions, how could he tell Harry that LV might actually be starting 
to control him ? DD must have known that Harry would go berserk and 
do something absolutely crazy if he was told the complete truth.
As for telling him anything else, they simply couldn't do that as 
long as he hadn't learned Occlumency. But Harry first wanted to know 
everything before he learned Occlumency. What more could DD or 
anyone else have done ? They *did* tell him to learn Occlumency, 
didn't they ?

Del