Acceptable Abuses?

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 95938

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Shaun Hately" <drednort at a...> 
wrote:

snipping the frst part of Shaun's post, because completely disagrees 
with him, but realising that that is indeed strictly a matter of 
personal opinion and experiences.


> I think Dumbledore does love Harry.
> 
> But he also loves his world - and when there is conflict between 
> those two loves, he'll do what he has to do to save that world.
> 
> I'll go further. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that 
> Dumbledore loves Tom Riddle as well.
> 
> But he will kill Tom - and more than kill Tom - to protect his 
> world.
> 
> Dumbledore does what he has to do.


That I don't know. If I would have been sure that he at least LOVES 
BOTH Harry and his world, I would have been more sympathetic to his 
struggle. 
I will probably regain my respect for Dumbledore if he at least tries 
to find a way to reconcile both like giving Harry all necessary tools 
to survive Voldemort, not keeping him in the dark, etc.

Personally, I think Dumbledore will be REALLY surpprised by  the 
ending of the books. :o)
 
> Two of my favourite series of SciFi books - the Ender series 
> (including the Shadow books) and the Seafort saga, both have 
> situations where men with a genuine love and caring for the 
> children they teach, are forced into situations where they have to 
> use those children to save their world. In 'Fisherman's Hope' 
> (spoilers ahead), Nicholas Seafort, Commandant of the Naval 
> Academy, a devout Christian, who genuinely cares for the children 
> he trains, deliberately sends numerous of them unknowingly to their 
> deaths - because it is the only way he knows to save the human 
> race.

By the way, I really really hate "Ender Game". Although it is a 
wonderfullly written book, indeed. Probably because it is a typical 
example of what kind of story produces negative emotions in me. Child 
is expected to save the world and adults around him take an easy way 
out without trying to find some other way to save the said world 
without sending children to die.
I read "Ender Game" about a year ago, so I may not remember the 
details, but so far I don't any adults around cared about Ender much, 
they cared first and most of all about winning a war.
 
> It's not even a choice, really. The lives of a few against the 
> lives of many.
>


But that is what makes such a wonderful read . It is a choice and 
usually really "humanistic" characters struggle with such choice, not 
just take an easy way out and sacrifice life of few for "the greater 
good"


> But such choices aren't uncommon in literature today (well, they've 
> never been uncommon - but they are starting to emerge more and more 
> often in contemporary YA and children's works).
> 
> Dumbledore has to make his choices based on his morality. Are his 
> choices easy ones? No. Are they correct ones? That depends on your 
> point of view, I guess.
> 
> But I'd say that whatever else they are, they are COURAGEOUS 
> choices.
> 



If Dumbledore sacrifices himself too in his fight against Voldie, 
than yes, definitely his choices are courageous, otherwise it is 
hiding behind the child back and expecting this child to win the war 
for him and save wisarding world.
Yes, I can never be a politican as I said before, because I do 
disagree. 



Alla
"Happiness of all humanity is not worth one tear of the tortured 
child"