An ironic Sirius quote
Geoff Bannister
gbannister10 at aol.com
Thu Apr 15 19:28:47 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 96049
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "JoAnna" <pt4ever at y...> wrote:
> I ran across the following earlier today -
>
> "If you want to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he
> treats his inferiors, not his equals." -Sirius Black, Chapter 27,
> "Padfoot Returns," page 525 (American Edition).
>
> It's interesting that Sirius Black says the above regarding Barty
> Crouch Sr.'s treatment of Winky the house-elf, given how Sirius
treats
> Kreacher the house-elf in "Order of the Phoenix." It also says a
good
> deal about the kind of people that Harry and Hermione are, given
their
> kindess towards house-elves.
>
> If we look at Sirius' treatment of Kreacher in OotP and judge him by
> Sirius' own standard, Sirius would not seem to be a very nice person
> at all. No doubt that's why Dumbledore had told him that Kreacher
> must be treated with respect (and it also shows that Dumbledore,
> unlike Sirius, practices what he preaches).
>
> Thoughts?
>
> - JoAnna
Geoff:
I tend to agree with what has been said by a number of posters on
this thread.
Kreacher is obviously willing to foment trouble by drawing
comparisons between Sirius and his mother and to insult and criticise
other people within the house. Sirius' responses are largely to
counter the elf's remarks. There is little evidence of behaviour
worse than this.
On the other hand, Crouch seems to take a sadistic delight in heaping
humiliation and gratuitous verbal and emotional abuse on Winky after
the Dark Mark incident, reducing her to terror and hysteria without
showing any restraint or compassion at all. No thought is given to
what she will do and how she will do it; she is effectively told in
the tradition of the old Victorian melodramas "Go and never darken my
doorsteps again". Sirius may be treating Kreacher with disdain but
the elf is getting the comeback which he probably deserves and Sirius
is perhaps reflecting the general Wizarding World feeling about house-
elves - whether that is ethically correct or not.
Nope, on reflection, I would say that Sirius' good points outweigh
his bad ones.
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