[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry's ability to AK (was)Crouch!Moody and the Unforgivable Curses

[Saitaina]

No: HPFGUIDX 96567

Mo wrote:

<It has to be utter evil intent to want to
kill someone
with AK>

There is no canonical evidence for this
though.  The Aurors were given permission
during the First War to use the Unforgivibles
and I'm sure there were those that used the
Avada Kadavra, and were not evil at the time
of doing so.  Evil intent, while I'm sure has
some bearing in terms of power, is not truly
needed to get this curse to work.

AK is a powerful spell, it strips the very
essence of life out of a person, and to do
so, one would have to be powerful in their
own right, but not only that.  Emotion,
power, ability, all play a factor in bringing
this curse together properly.

Thirty under trained, under age and rather
lacking as a whole, group of students
couldn't pull it off because their missing
bits of all three ingredients.  Harry, though
filled with emotion at Bellatrix, semi
powerful in his own right, is missing at
least parts of the ingredients.

No child, and few adults can pull off all of
the Unforgivables.  They are Unforgivable not
only for what they do, but what they bring
out in people.  To cast them you have to want
the results more then anything.  You have to
feel them with your entire being.  The want
to control another human life, the want to
cause pain beyond all that could ever be
felt, the want to kill.  The these are sides
we hide from other people, and very few of us
actually feel it with our entire selves.
More then all encompassing love, more then
all consuming hate, you have to feel these,
and it's very hard to feel anything with your
entire being, as too many things keep us from
it, (conscious, rational thought, outside
emotions and factors, ect).

Yes Harry is Good, and some of that is a
factor in why he could not cast the Cruciatus
and by extension, would probably fail at the
AK, but it, as stated before, is not the
entire reason.  There may come a time,
perhaps beyond the books, (if Harry were to
go on living without what was written) that
Harry could possibly be in a position to
cast, and succeeded at such, an Unforgivable,
even AK itself.  But he would loose a great
deal of what makes him Harry Potter to do so,
just as any human would lose a part of
themselves to cause any action that would
mimic the effects of an Unforgivable.

Bellatrix tells Harry "..righteous anger
won't hurt me for long...", which is a very
giving tale of the emotions needed behind the
use of an Unforgivable.  Righteous anger, is
not an emotion.  It is a lie, a cover up for
the true emotion underneath which is grief.
Righteous anger, just means you are morally
right to feel angry, doesn't mean you do,
just means you are right to.  Granted Harry
IS angry, but the anger is derived from the
bigger grief that he hasn't yet, at that
time, embraced.  Anger, in that situation, is
not enough.  So good, bad or slightly grey
sitting on a fence post, Harry can't cast
that spell, because he hasn't embraced the
true emotion, (added in with the power and
ability factor).

Saitaina
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