Names in the Goblet - Fourth School

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 96825

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "caesian" <caesian at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "arrowsmithbt"
<arrowsmithbt at b...> wrote:
> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "caesian" <caesian at y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have to go with Dumbledore on this one, because, to paraphrase
> > > Hermione, if you can't trust him then who can you trust? I
> > > believe> the contract is binding. ...
> > >

> > Kneasy/arrowsmith:
> >
> > *Gasp* Trust Dumbledore? You must be joking!
> >
> <snip> This little episode, for example. The Goblet threw out
> > Harry's name. Fine. Which school was he competing for? ...
> >
> > Kneasy


>
> Caesian:
> Well - I do hate to nit-pick, especially at my seniors.
>
> But, here goes:
>
> I take issue with assuming that Harry's name on the slip of paper is
> accompanied by a school name when it comes back out of the Goblet of
> Fire. Now - don't sharpen the wit-knives just yet - I recall that
> the instructions to enter were "your name and the name of your
> school" - so, unless the Goblet alters the slips the other Champion
> slips do show both name and school. Harry doesn't see the slips,
> and just because Dumbledore states the school of the other champions
> does not mean that a school is written on the slip - but it's
> probable. But for his own slip? Probably just his name.
>
> Does that undermine the argument of your post? Trustable but
> secretive Dumbledore? *Gasp* (- I'm sorry, I couldn't resist but I
> do know you have a sense of humor.) That's certainly possible.


bboy_mn:

I'm leaning toward Caesian view on this issue (assuming I understand
it correctly).

Here are the names of the FOUR schools as I see them-

-Hogwarts
-Durmstrang
-Beauxbatons
-none of the above

Remember the Goblet has been 'befuddled' so it is a little confused at
the moment. If Harry's name was in the Goblet with no school name, the
confounded Goblet might see it as not Hogwarts (already pick that
champion), not Durmstrang (already pick that champion), not
Beauxbatons (already pick that champion), which only leaves 'other'.

In other words, one champion was selected from each group of matching
school names. Harry's name was selected from the group (of one) with a
school un-named.

Restated, one named champion from each unique group of submissions; a
blank school name would have respesented a unique group of submissions.

Alternately, Harry's name could have been written (minus the brackets)
[Harry Potter . ]. In that case, the contestant would be 'Harry
Potter' and the school would have been '.' (period).

The alternate alternative, is that a random word was written in
invisible ink, to represent the fourth school; Harry Potter of the
invisible school of [oddballs].

So, I agree it is possible for Harry, to the confused Goblet, to
represent a four un-named school or not obviously named school.

Just a thought.

bboy_mn