DD: an appreciation plus Lupin - again.

[severelysigune]

No: HPFGUIDX 96996

 Kneasy:  
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<<< In PoA during the Quidditch  match / Dementor episode, Harry 
hears the following "... and then came a new voice, a man's voice,  
shouting, panicking - "Lily, take Harry and go! It's him! Go! Run!  
I'll hold him off..." A couple of lines later we have: " "You  heard 
James?" said Lupin, in a strange voice."

I'd always assumed that James was killed  outside the house. No-one, 
so far as I know has considered the possibility that there  was 
someone else in the house when Voldy arrived.

What if the voice Harry hears was not James, James having being 
caught by surprise and already dead. Suppose it was Lupin's voice?  
This would neatly explain his "in a strange voice", because he  
*knows* that it wasn't James.

I have in the past suggested that Sirius suffered from 'survivors
guilt'; maybe Lupin does too. He feels a responsibility for the 
deaths of James and Lily. He survived because Voldy went for his 
prime targets first; Lupin would be dealt with later. But he didn't 
last long enough to get round to him.>>>


Renee:
<< Though I have to say this is an intriguing theory, it raises a few 
questions: 

#1: Wouldn't Harry have recognised the voice if it was Lupin's? He's 
having a conversation with him when this comes up, so he knows how 
Lupin's voice sounds. (OTOH, it may be difficult to recognise a 
voice when the owner is shouting in panic.)>>


Sigune delurks to throw in her two Knuts:
I just *love* Kneasy's latest theory, and it does seem quite 
plausible to me.
For one, I can answer your question here, Renée: Harry does not seem 
to be that good at recognising voices, does he? He certainly did not 
recognise Dumbledore's in the Howler to Petunia, and he should be 
pretty familiar with the Headmaster's voice after five years at 
Hogwarts.


Renée:
<< #2 seems more problematic to me: Sirius believed Lupin was the 
spy, so when he came up with the fatal plan to switch Secret Keepers 
he  suggested Wormtail. James and Lily went along with it - wouldn't  
this mean they agreed with Sirius's assessment of Lupin? And even if  
they didn't, would Remus have been told where to find their house?  
Wasn't the whole idea with this Secret Keeper business that as few  
people as possible knew where it was? I can't see James going behind  
Sirius's back and inviting Lupin anyway; if he thought Sirius was  
out of his mind to distrust Lupin, he'd have said so.>> 

Sigune:
The whole thing about Sirius and Lupin supposing each other to be the 
spy has been bothering me for a long time. If Sirius suspected Lupin, 
then on what basis did he do so? There must be some info that has not 
been passed on to us (nihil novum sub sole in that department) - the 
Marauders were supposed to be such great friends, weren't they? But 
then again I have also found it *thoughtless* at least of Sirius to 
send Snape to meet Werewolf!Remus, as he should have known that, in 
case of a bite or death, it would be Remus who would have had to bear 
the consequences.
Anyway - why trust Sirius and not Remus? And are we to understand 
that during the time they lived in Godric's Hollow, the Potters were 
entirely cut off from the world, having no visitors at all save 
Sirius and Dumbledore? If things were not as strict as that, I don't 
see why James's second biggest pal, id est Remus, would not have been 
acquainted with the Potters' whereabouts.

Yours severely, 

Sigune