DD: an appreciation plus Lupin - again.

[Meredith]

No: HPFGUIDX 97074

Ravenclaw Bookworm:

> The way I understood the description of how Peter was picked to be 
> Secret Keeper is that Sirius was picked first, but before the 
charm 
> was cast, he suggested using Peter instead. So I don't think 
Sirius 
> ever was the Secret Keeper.
> 
> Here's the paradox: Only the Secret Keeper can tell someone else 
the 
> secret – in this case the location of the Potters. Only Sirius 
> *admits* to knowing that Peter is the Secret Keeper, which implies 
> that only Peter and the people he tells (Sirius and Voldemort that 
> we know of) know where they were. Evidence indicates that 
Dumbledore 
> knew where the Potters were and somehow he was able to tell Hagrid 
> where to go that night. (Dumbledore didn't actually say he 
believed 
> Sirius was the Secret Keeper, he said he gave evidence about it – 
> what that evidence was he didn't state.) 
> 
> So who else did Peter tell, and why wouldn't they say something 
> about it when Sirius was accused? Where does Remus fit into this 
> picture? Was it really James' voice Harry hears? How was 
Dumbledore 
> able to tell Hagrid the secret? If Harry was one of the potential 
> subjects of the prophecy, it doesn't make sense for the fidelius 
> charm to quit working when James and Lily are dead but Harry is 
> still alive. Someone knows something and isn't telling!
> 


Luckie:
 Sirius - "I persuaded Lily and James to change to Peter at the last 
moment, persuaded them to use him as secret keeper instead of me... 
I'm to blame, I know it... The night they died, I'd arranged to 
check on Peter, make sure he was still safe, but when I arrived at 
his hiding place, he'd gone. Yet there was no sign of a struggle. It 
didn't feel right. I was scared. I set out for your parents house 
straight away" (365, PoA, American paperback). [I finally used a 
piece of canon!]

So Peter told Sirius where Lily and James were hiding, since he 
arrived at the house after Voldy had been there. My thoughts are 
that either Dumbledore knew they had property in Godric's Hollow 
before the Fidelius charm went into effect, or he received a written 
declaration of the secret. This would mean he actually had no idea 
Peter was the secret keeper. Afterall, the less people who know the 
truth the better - or so Sirius thinks. In OoP Harry was given a 
slip of paper, written by Dumbledore, that said the headquarters of 
the Order was at 12 Grimmauld Place. With the Fidelius charm, you 
can press you face to the window and not see the people inside, 
unless you are told they are there. Dumbledore may have KNOWN they 
were in Godric's Hollow, but wouldn't have been able to find them if 
he had wanted to go and visit them for himself. Or, if he previously 
knew where they were, perhaps the Fidelius charm made it impossible 
for him to tell anyone - only Peter could divulge the secret, even 
if others knew it. No matter how the charm really works, I think all 
bets were off when the people the charm was supposed to be 
protecting died and the person they were being protected from was 
destroyed. Also, Dumbldore may have told Hagrid to go to Godric's 
Hollow after the fact and look for the house that had been reduced 
to rubble... I wonder how that was explained away, or if any memory 
charms were performed that night on the other Godric's Hollow 
residents?

~Luckie, who wonders if muggles live in a hollow named for a 
hogwarts founder.