Prophecy and Choice - DD's choices

[finwitch]

No: HPFGUIDX 97236

imamommy wrote : 
> Another thing to consider that is important to the story 
> is that DD trusts the prophecy.  Enough to keep that ol' 
> bat Trelawney on the payroll for the last sixteen years.  
> Enough to share it with Harry. DD seems to think the 
> information is accurate and important.  And if we can't 
> trust DD, who can we trust?

> Del replied :
> I don't trust DD precisely because he believed in the Prophecy, 
took 
> decisions *for others* based on it, but never gave those others a 
> chance to make their own decisions. Maybe he told Petunia about it, 
> but she's the only one who was lucky then. Nobody else was told 
> about it, and still they were bossed around by DD because of it ! 
> Harry in particular, was manipulated all those years because he was 
> the Prophecy boy, but he was never given a chance to make his own 
> decisions. DD took away everyone's free agency concerning the 
> Prophecy. But then of course, that very choice of DD was *also* 
> taken into account by those Higher Forces who gave the Prophecy to 
> Prof. Trelawney in the first place :-)

Finwitch: Quite right. The Higher Forces do take all into account. A 
True Prophecy is one that will come true, no matter how you try to 
deny it. It is also cryptic and what not...

OK, so "The one with the power to vanguish the Dark Lord will be born 
to those who have thrice defied him as the seventh month dies..."

Now, Lord Voldemort heard THIS part and only this part. He didn't 
know about the "marks him as his equal"-part at all. That is why he 
went to the one he thought was MOST of a threat to him. (see - the 
prohecy manipulated his choice by not giving him ALL information, but 
it still was his choice!) And, Voldemort WAS vanguished that day.

Also, the 'as the seventh month dies' need not necessarily be the 
last of July. It could be the last day of the seventh month counting 
from the day the prophecy was given (well, if it hadn't been given on 
December, which I doubt because Trelawney had a job interview... I 
mean, wouldn't that take place during summer?) - or seventh month of 
some other Calendar than we follow to day... Or the seventh time the 
Moon was last in the sky before 'dying' - a.ka. going dark...

However, both Voldemort (who marked Harry) and Dumbledore (who heard 
the prophecy) considered it to mean the last of July. (so we know now 
when Neville's birthday is! I wonder if Harry will buy him something 
for a gift - like a wand (if they meet in Diagon Alley) and Neville 
will give Harry something important in return...?)

Anyway, "He has a power Dark Lord knows not" - we've seen this! 
Voldemort had not 'known' of the ancient magic that backfired his OWN 
killing curse back at him, nor Harry's power Harry used while holding 
Quirrel's body, nor about the Gryffindor-Sword in Sorting Hat or 
Healing Powers of Phoenix Tears... And, the brother-wand effect was 
the surprise power at the grave yard (I think the 'echoes'...) and, 
DA was Harry's surprise in OOP, I think, Neville in particular.
(I like it that Neville's clumsiness broke the prophecy!)
Anyway, now Harry knows the whole prophecy, but Voldemort does not!
And the Thestrals was also a great on their part...

But well...

-- Finwitch