Q
Susan Miller
constancevigilance at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 29 19:27:19 UTC 2004
No: HPFGUIDX 97253
Ah. So many things to respond to in this post.
<snipping my quote - everybody knows it by now>
> > Um, just How, Exactly, would everyone know what happened
> between Harry and Quirrell? The only two people who were there
> were Harry and Quirrell. Dumbledore arrived later.<
>
> Pippin quotes:
> ***
> Quirrell screamed and tried to throw Harry off--the pain in Harry's
> head was building--he couldn't see--he could only hear Quirrell's
> terrible shrieks and Voldemort's yells of "KILL HIM! KILL HIM!"
> and other voices, maybe in Harry's own head, crying, "Harry!
> Harry!"
> ****
>
> Now, when Dumbledore came running to the rescue, did he
> come alone? Not according to this passage.
You have a point. But let's continue the passage:
***
He felt Quirrell's arm wrenched from his grasp, knew all was lost and
fell into blackness, down ... down ... down ...
Something gold was glinting just above him. The Snitch! He tried to
catch it, but his arms were too heavy.
He blinked. It wasn't the Snitch at all. It was a pair of glasses.
**
>From reading the whole thing, I got that there was a lot of confusion
on Harry's part beginning at the start of your quote and not settling
down until he recognized the glasses. Even Harry doesn't know if the
voices were real. I had always imagined that they were vaguely
remembered voices from his hospital stay. It would be easy to confuse
the sequence of events in such a state. But granted, others could
have joined Dumbledore in the dungeon.
> They would be handy to have along, especially
> since the potion for getting past the fire was all gone.
Actually, I've pondered this before. I wondered why Quirrell didn't
just drink all the potion and effectively close the door behind
himself. Or at least move the bottles around or steal the riddle? But
I think the charms reset themselves between breaches. The chess set
reset with new pieces. But for Dumbledore, the point is moot.
Wouldn't he be able to remove all the charms on the way? It would be
pretty silly if he put up blocks that might keep HIM out, too. That
justs leaves Fluffy and the troll that they would really have to deal
with.
They would
> not need to know any of the conversation to know that Quirrell
> had gone after the Stone and Harry had stopped him, which
> seems to be what everyone knows.
>
Well, okay. But I liked my version better.
> As for using the Stone to save Quirrell, he had drunk unicorn
> blood. It would be no mercy to keep him alive.
>
That's not what Firenze says.
***
Page 258 US edition:
"But who'd be that desperate?" he (Harry) wondered aloud. "If you're
going to be cursed forever, death's better, isn't it?"
"It is," Firenze agreed, "unless all you need is to stay alive long
enough to drink something else - something that will bring you back
to full strength and power ... "
***
By that, I think the elixer cancels the cursed half-life problem of
the unicorn blood.
Dipping into metathinking for a minute - what purpose did the whole
unicorn blood episode give us? Quirrell didn't need the unicorn blood
to stay alive with Voldemort in him. He was feeling the effects, but
he was in no danger of dying. We needed to meet the Firenze and the
centaurs. What other possible purpose could it have had other than to
provide an excuse for Quirrell surviving until Book 7? Voldemort is
used to having his hosts perish when he leaves them, but he never had
a host with unicorn blood before. That's why he thinks Quirrell is
dead.
I'm standing by Redeemed!Quirrell.
~ Constance Vigilance, who has no idea why Yahoomort changed my
perfectly good subject header into the single letter Q. There was
more to it, honest.
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