SHIP: Need opinions -H/R with a Twist

[Wolfraven 80]

No: HPFGUIDX 97260

bboy_mn wrote:

>The point is that we have to look much closer to the surface to see
>what is plainly there. The books are truly and universally hinting at
>something going on between Ron and Hermione. Although, it seems
>strongest on Ron's side of the relationship. And, as we all know,
>dense typical /boy/ Ron hasn't fully realized his feelings yet.

>Beyond that, any relationships are based on hyper-rationalization, and
>attempts to find clues to support our pre-determined desired outcome.
>We don't make the potential outcome fit the facts, we selectively fit
>the facts to our chosen outcome. And if I want to, I am absolutely
>confident I can find a wealth of facts/clues to fit a Harry/Ron outcome.
<snip>
>So, until the story moves us in a different direction, the only
>relationship potential that is obvious in the story is Ron/Hermione.

Yes, something is going on between Ron and Hermione-- JKR has said as much, 
but to imply that the R/H ship is a foregone conclusion, and that any other 
ship is simply a matter of "hyper-rationalization" is going a bit far. How 
is that digging for shipping clues and arguing about whether they're real or 
just red herrings, is any different than what other non-shippers do in terms 
of their theories? Aren't those who argue for vampire!Snape or ESE!Lupin 
engaging in much the same process? How then is it, then, that a shipper who 
engages in such debate is no longer theorizing, but "hyper-rationalizating"?

I agree that one can find evidence for almost any ship if one really looks 
for it, but that evidence will not be equally strong for all ships. Strong 
arguments can be put forth for both R/H and H/H, and that is why ship 
debates have been going on as long as they have, with the intensity that 
they have. It is not just a matter of the wishful thinking of those aboard, 
but because convincing arguments can be made for each ship. If there weren't 
solid arguments for ships other than R/H (such as H/H or H/G) then debates 
would have fizzled out and been over and done with long ago. The fact that 
people can and do still discuss shipping matters means that there's still 
something to debate, and that there are two sides which are reasonably well 
matched.

Best,
Erika (Wolfraven)

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