Harry must be the one

Steve asian_lovr2 at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 1 15:57:55 UTC 2004


No: HPFGUIDX 108402

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Cathy Drolet" <cldrolet at s...>
wrote:
> Inkling
> "At the end of OOtP Dumbledore also states very clearly, when it 
> comes to prophecies,"*only* (my emphasis) the people to whom they 
> refer can lift them off the shelf without suffering madness." US 
> version, p.829.
> 
> Harry lifted it off the shelf and did not go mad.  There is only 
> one child referred to in the prophecy.  Therefore, Harry must be the
> one.
> 
> I don't see any wiggle room here, guys."
> 
> Inkling


> DuffyPoo:
> 
> HP can lift the orb off the shelf because it was determined, by the
Keeper of the Hall of Prophecy, that HP is the one.  Changed the label
and probably changed the protection spell on the orb, as well. ...
> 
> ... Everyone is underestimating LV (... can't, ..., figure out why.
 LV is not opposed to killing innocents).  He wouldn't possibly have
only tried to kill the one he figured was his biggest danger - just in
case he made the wrong decision...he would have killed both kids ...
> 
>DuffyPoo

Asian_lovr2:

On the original point; I agree with DuffyPoo to some extent. Someone
somewhere determined that Harry was the 'ONE' spoken of in the
Prophecy, and I all likelihood the Prophecy does relate to him.

But... There are those who believe that the Prophecy speaks of three
people; Harry, Neville, and Voldemort. Some people are coming up with
various interpretations of the Prophecy that go like this...

" Either (Harry or Neville) must die at the hand of the other
(Voldemort) for neither (Harry or Neville) can live while the other
(Voldemort) survives." 

Like I said, there are various, but this illustrates the point well
enough. 

As to DuffyPoo's second point about Voldemort intending to kill every
kid even remotely related to the Prophecy, I agree. Although we will
have to wait until the end of the series to know for sure, I think
Voldemort attacked Harry first because Harry was the first one he had
the opportunity to attack. If someone had come to him with information
about Neville then he would have gone after Neville first. 

As it was, Wormtail became the Secret Keeper for the Potters, and was
able to reveal their location to Voldemort. So that's where he went
first. Now, Dumbledore may have guessed right, that Voldemort
preceived more danger in Harry, but overal, I personally feel it was
more opportunity, rather than a grand plan, that lead him to the
Potters first. 

Being a big Neville fan, I am somewhat bias. I really believe that
Neville is going to play an imensely big role in the final resolution.
 So big that perhaps after seven books, we will discover that the
series really was about Neville. 

If it is truly Neville who finally vanguishes Voldemort that doesn't
erase any of the grand and heroic things Harry has done. He still
saved the Stone, he still rescued Ginny from the Basilisk and
destroyed the memory of Tom Riddle, he still proved Sirius innocent,
he still won the Tri-Wiz Tournement and dueled with Voldy, he still
managed to fight off a pack of Death Eaters and escape Voldemort
again, and he, Harry, will still play a significant and equally heroic
part in the last book.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/asian_lovr2






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