Remember when Harry claimed he was Neville Longbottom on the Knight Bus?

[Cathy Drolet]

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Griffin782002 said:
>>>I really do not understand why Neville should be the one in the phophecy. What is Dumbledore say to Harry in the end? "I am sorry Harry but the prophecy wasn't for you but for Neville. And I am sorry for losing your parents because of a mistake." <<<

DuffyPoo:

Exactly!  Dumbledore has made a huge whopping mistake by reading the circumstantial evidence as 'fact'.  

HP didn't lose his parents because of a mistake.  HP lost his parents because LV was going to kill every child that could possibly fulfill the part of the prophecy he knew "born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies".  HP and NL fulfilled that part of the prophecy when they were both born at the end of July, 1980.  LV started with HP, because, thanks to Wormtail, he knew where to find HP and the Longbottoms were still hidden from him.  He was thwarted there by Lily's sacrifice.  

The 'prophecy' itself wasn't 'for' anyone.  It was for a child (male) born to parents who thrice defied LV, born as the seventh month dies...etc.  It could very well have been, that when the prophecy was made, there was no one who had thrice defied LV and that part only came into play when L&J and F&A did so.  It 'became' about HP when LV was flattened by Lily's sacrificing herself to save her son.  DD, one of the few people, I think, who knew the full prophecy, immediately jumped to the conclusion that HP now fulfilled it.  The Keeper of the HoP jumped to the same conclusion because HP lived and LV apparently did not and re-labelled the orb (did he know the full prophecy or only that it was about a baby about to be born with the power to vanquish LV? We don't know.). All the WW at large knows is that HP survived and LV is apparently gone, they don't know HP has 'fulfilled' any prophecy because they don't know there 'is' a prophecy.  

I've said before that I find it strange that people like DD have so badly underestimated LV that they think he 'chose' one of the two kids who fulfilled the first part of the prophecy, and went specifically to kill that child.  I don't believe that for a second.  LV knows, or is probably pretty sure, that he didn't hear all of the prophecy.  His spy was chucked out while Trelawney was still speaking after all. He knows cannot risk 'choosing' the wrong child.   He would have gone to kill both kids, at the very least (I think he would have killed more to be on the 'safe side' in case the parents of some other kid, born at the end of July, ended up defying him three times.  My DH said in LV's shoes, he would have killed every kid born between mid-Jul and mid-Aug just to be sure he got the right one)  Thwarted by Lily's sacrifice, LV didn't get the chance to try to kill Neville.  He only started at the Potters because, thanks to Wormtail, he knew where the Potters lived.  

I'm not saying the prophecy IS about Neville.  All I'm saying is that as long as Neville remains alive and untested there is still the possibility that he can be the one to fulfill the prophecy.  It can still be Harry.  All the 'facts' DD has right now to support his belief that it IS Harry, are circumstantial evidence.


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