The Power, Time Travel and Occlumency

[Amey Chinchorkar]

No: HPFGUIDX 108524

Amey:
Feels really good to be back hunting after a lot of prowling in shadows
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-	Laura (theredshoes86) wrote:
-	I feel that whatever is special about Harry that the Dark
-	Lord 'knows not' is what Harry will find out in book six.
-	Although didn't Dumbledore say something like 'it's the same power
-	which brought you to Siris to try to rescue him' or something?  So,
-	doesn't that imply love?  Could, perhaps the whole Harry Potter
-	Series focus on love?
-	SSSusan:
-	Could be love--many believe it so.  My personal theory is that it's a
-	slight variation--that it's *sacrificial* love as opposed to just
-	plain old love.  (Almost everyone is capable of love and loves
-	others, but sacrificial love is a rarer thing, imo.)

Amey:
*Sacrifice* or in other words, not fearing death.
Let the pain stop, thought Harry
 let him kill us
 end it, Dumbledore
 death is nothing compared to this
 And I'll see Sirius again
And as Harry's heart filled with emotion, the creature's coils loosened, the pain was gone; Harry was lying face down on the floor, his glasses gone, shivering as though he lay upon ice, not wood
 (OOtP)
So, here also, we have one more instance where love is combined with another emotion, the knowledge that death is not the last thing, and not a thing of which you should be afraid of. This is the thought and emotion (IMO) which drove Voldemort away, the *love* for somebody and at the same time, thought of death which Voldemort fears above anything else. Yes, fits more into *sacrificial love* than just love. Maybe the way to conquer Voldemort is to rise above the fear of death (which Sirius did, according to Nick).


-	Casey responds:
-	My only issue is that Time Travel can be used too easily to right
-	something. To do something and go back and erase everything that
-	happened. Use the Time Turner to go back and protect Lupin, or James
-	and Lilly, or even go back and make sure Baby Riddle is adopted into
-	a loving home so that he doesn't turn out evil.

Amey:
I don’t think time travel will be used to do anything that important. Saving Sirius was one thing, (after all, he did not live much on borrowed time. I wonder if Dumbledore knew that Sirius was anyways going to die not much later and maybe that’s why he wanted to save him from a fate which was much worse than death in a duel, trying to save his godchild.), but saving Potters is a wholely different thing. 
When Dumbledore says that *the consequences of our actions are always so complicated, so diverse, that predicting the future is a very difficult business indeed...*, there is also one more side to this, if we change something by time travel, it is going to have very complex impact on the world. Think of Tom Riddle, if he is adopted by some good family, then he does not hate the thought to go back to orphanage. This might induce him not to stop attacks when he opened the Chamber, or he might not open the Chamber at all. He might marry, might have children, and then someday they might open the Chamber. I am not saying that opening the Chamber is a must, and that it must happen irrespective of anything else. But nobody knows the consequences, and so Dumbledore (or should I say JKR) will not take that chance. 
IMO any ending which involves massive time travel will leave more questions unanswered than solving the questions.


-	SSSusan:
-	Is it possible that Snape's motive WAS preventing Harry from seeing something 
-	about some OTHER person/people, not necessarily just that he didn't want Harry 
-	to see him upside in grey undies?  But then again, why WOULDN'T he have
-	wanted Harry to know his dad & Sirius were jerks at 15?


Amey:
If he had some memory which would have shown them in that light, without involving his grey undies, he would have chosen it. But I think he was not at all thinking that Harry could enter into his memories, whether by defending himself or by penseive. He was saving the memory from Harry because he thought Harry was like his father (rude and all) and would enjoy the memory and maybe it night be another *snape in stuffed vulture hat* type of incident. 
One moer thing though, *For some reason, Snape seemed even angrier than he had done two minutes before, when Harry had seen into his teacher's memories*. Does this start any thoughts in somebodies minds? Also, why Harry is able to penetrate only once into Snape’s mind? Does the fact that he *guessed* Snape’s role just before that matters here? Is Snape somewhat offguard because he is gloating that he is playing important role?? Some food for thought here
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Amey



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